Quote from: Tom82 on Today at 12:39:18 PM<blockquote>
I got you, troubled times when my mind begins to wander to the bottle
I liked the old version better, when his flowers were purple, and his mind begins to wander to the spoon.
the sponn brings fate too, its ironic but if he only found a middle way, or find a way, lets say stay of the hard things, like the spoon and the bottle, but still takes ultram, tramadol, xanax , codeine. (don't know if people here know this prescription meds, maybe too young, no one seems to talk about scotts painkiller problem) than it would be a big step in the right direction. don't get me wrong. but these things are better than drinking alcohol, or binge drinking, bozze. they don't destroy mind and liver like the alcohol does. and maybe one year on them, he can slowly taper off. it saved some lives here, therfor I mentioned it....
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Not a chance. A full on addict can not taper off like that, he'll just keep replacing one thing with another like he has been doing for decades. He has absolutely no self control, that much is obvious.
The only way he will get clean is to give up absolutely anything that significantly alters his state of mind and completely commit to it." Hi Pingfah, you're right. have read, marys and scott book, the tendency that he only trades "mood lifter" , and quits one and therefor starts another, quits, and does both together an so on, back and forwards, is sadly true.... to be completely honest for me it worked , I never have tried, heroin or crack, or any of that junk.... but I fell in the trap of opiate, opioid painkillers like tramadol, codeine , sedatives, klonopin, xanax.... but I quit booze, two and half years, don't even have a romantic craving, or sometimes the longing to drink. hate alcohol now. but have a history with painkillers, prescription opiates, like mentioned before, because im bi polar, and was also never treated the right way. since I know that, for the moment I can taper down every day ....its the lesser of two evils, but alcohol was harmful....and the other thing, worked and now I take less and lesser....