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EyesOfDisarray

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I see what you're saying, and I agree that some "specialists" are a bit too trigger happy to diagnose addiction. Abuse and addiction are two separate things; the former doesn't always lead to the latter. But the flip side is that there are also a ton of people out there struggling with addiction who might benefit from some sort of treatment but are never properly diagnosed.

Personally, I don't support the 12-step method. I don't think it's a real solution for a healthy, fulfilling life. (It also happens to be a religious organization that is mandated by the courts, which is a violation of the First Amendment… but that's a whole other topic.)


But that doesn't let addicts off the hook from getting treatment. There are real addicts out there who need real help, whether that be detox, rehab, medication, therapy, other support groups, etc. There are just better ways to get it than 12-step, and hopefully society will start to recognize that soon.

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Lithium Oritate.

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I'm not from the states, maybe its an controversy, and I know its the lesser of two evils, when I#m down and out, on a merry go round of high and lows for 16 years, bi polar bear... I was running and running, didn't get the runners high anymore. and in my free time I run lot, in the woods around the sea. go to the gym. but like running more. long sentence short. traditional ways didn't help anymore. I was prescribed Tramadol again. I know in the states its i think not so known prescription medication. but it helped me a lot, get back on track. and mostly can lead a normal life again...

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Eyes of Disarray, here the scory from Marys book, which Ive bought and enjoyed reading, 4 years ago. The 2001 story according to marys book, was that scott was 18 months clean , in the timeline 99-01, but after 18 months he relapsed by buying vicodine. mary and her motrher that drove him to the pharmacy thought it were antibiotics, at home mary saw his eyes and searched the bottle, he took the whole body, and started gliding into the depth of painkiller addiction. she wrotes that during recording shangri la he was using "vicodine and god knows what else". in november 2001 they played las vegas, and scott was missing. she was also in the hotel, i thin it was noahs birthday, and mary phoned him, and he said I#m there in two minutes, that game continued and he didn't show up. she got angry and found him with a doc inside a gotel room writing him a new painkiller prescription. she told the doc hes addicted to painkillers, but he did get the prescription anyway, the doc left, and scott was ready to get the medicine. she tried to save him, blockaded the hotel room door, he got out anyway, in order to get his painkillers. she called the police and said he hit her, knowing that would put him in police custudy and he couldn't use. mary made clear that he didn't hit her, didn't attack her in any form. during the next chaotic hours, or next day she got an phone call from robert downey jr. ,telling her she did the right thing, with that method...

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Wow I never knew that's what actually happened in that hotel room incident. That's really interesting. Has Scott ever commented on the legitimacy of this story?

Thanks for sharing that.

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A little late to the party on this one, but a lot of you guys mentioned stuff regarding Scotts current vocal abilities in page 1 of this thread. I want to say that Scott's voice was my biggest concern since 2010 honestly, I wasn't worried about anything else regarding the band, much less their eventual break up. Some of you said that he hasn't been strong since '01 and I can't deny that '99-'01 were great performance years, House Of Blues and Rolling Rocks both stick out as powerhouse performances, but I have to disagree and say that he continued to deliver early on in the Velvet Revolver era. Some of you had similar statements. The early Velvet Revolver sessions feature some of the best studio vocals since No. 4, IMO. I don't know how many of you have seen the VH1 VR documentary, but it definitely kind of showcased his performance value in the studio at the time. That and his vocals on Contraband are pretty awesome anyway. That's where stuff tends to diverge to me...

That tour was solid, but '08 came around and we got Libertad, that's where his vocals started to slip IMO. His live performances weren't as strong as the Contraband tour and even his studio vocals seemed less than up to par, it just didn't seem like he had it in him, to me anyway. Something that was not mentioned though, the song he did with Santana. The cover of "Can't You Hear Me Knocking", his vocals really surprised me, I love that cover. Some of the reunion STP performances were good and certain songs were still just as powerful as they should've been. Others...he sadly just couldn't do justice. I just think he's been on this sort of downward slope, where he'll pick back up again sorta, and then derail again. Well, there's my two cents.

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eyes of Disarray "Has Scott ever commented on the legitimacy of this story?" I asked me the same question, and was interested to read about that period and incident in his book. scott doesn't mention that 2001 incident. not one word about it in his book. but we all know how much information, and stations of his life and interesting events were missing in scotts book. marys book was way more coherent and gave a better picture, and was way more complex also.

I still don't fully understand why scott is out of control with his drinking habit. for me there is also a prescription meds problem, the late 2008, 2010, 2011 and so on, interviews are evidence enough i think. mary wrote in her book that he started "drinking heavily somewhat even before michaels death ", before his brother passed away in early 2007. 2006 mary and scott made an holiday, don't know where, forgot it, but i remember that she wrote, she begged him to stop drinking, before they took the flight. his book released in 2010, there he wrotes that he knows god "damn well that hes a drunk", that he sees it not as suicidal after kicking the hard stuff, but said it did fatal harm. 2011 in that troubled, sad howard stern interview he siad it goes back and forward with drinking. in his book he also indirectly names reasons for his drinking, he doesn't want to be alone anymore, for example. now he isn't alone anymore.
but someone on this forum, some months ago, mentioned, i think "scott rumour" was the title, and stpjudge the one who wrote, "scott is drinking all day. every day. its real bad" I think even if he hasn't the reasons, pain and sorrows for drinking anymore, I mean at the moment , he is married , that means being not alone anymore compared to 2011, and at the moment not a slave to the road/ touring, he still seems drinking like before. and thats when a addiction, or a habit is out of control. and muscians who know him, have played with him like richard patrick, post on facebook and say during an acoustic show "that scott is sick and needs help" patrick is a recovering alcoholic himself.
but if you see and hear some of the interviews he made, from late 2008 howard stern, where he says he is on the h. substitute suboxone, alternative to methadone. and some of the radio interviews, or the 2010 I think Alan Cross interview, for his clothing line, the stern 2011 interview, the pnc 2008 show, glassy and shiny eyes...

especially the interviews, with his struggle for words, and long pauses, from my experience i can tell you that is not only alcohol, there are  sedatives (addicting stuff, like xanax) and maybe the stronger painkillers, codeine and his synthetic cousins, vicodine and oxycontine , maybe the opioid tramadol too..those 3 mentioned medications, are synthetic opiates. in the mix too, could be wrong but the signs can't be denied...
the slurring, the slow speech, pinned ,tiny eyes, its not my business, but its sad, after reading those books, and his promises to 2011 on stern and on his book, to quit dsrinking, all these years later still drinking, and as I mentoined he never talks about pills, painkillers, tranquilizer, i think like elvis he thinks that is medicine, a doctor prescribed it, its legal... so its not "a hard drug"

but do you remember before they went on tour to promote the self titled album, and robert de leo, said scott is poppin' pills, he needs help, he can't go on tour ?
I hope he can put his act together and we get to hear another inspired , versatile and genre mixing album from scott, i'm sure he still can contribute... and maybe he gets away from the booze and without  "hot purple china glow" like he sings in adhesive...
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I agree with everything you said Tom. The last time he had this awful speech was during the Tiny Music era, during the MTV Rockumentary. The opiates were there. During the No. 4/SLDD era, he was good speaker. I think Scott is back on the opiates again.

If Scott ever gets completely sober again, will he be able to talk like a normal person again? He's done a lot of damage.
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The gist I've gotten about Scott's last 8 years of issues is that in late 2006/early 2007 he started drinking again, then later in 2007 he started doing coke again.  He went to rehab in early 2008, but was drinking again by sometime in spring 2008 with pills mixed in at some point.  In fall 2010 Scott quit drinking for a few months (he did the at home rehab with Bob Forest after the meltdown at that show in Texas), as he was writing the end of his book he was sober and said he prayed he'd still be sober by the time the book came out.  Scott fell off the wagon again sometime in early 2011 before the book came out, and he seems to have been struggling since then and just getting worse unfortunately.


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Tom, that's a lot of interesting information, and I thank you for sharing. It all makes a lot of sense. I had forgotten Scott mentioned he was on suboxone in that Stern interview. He claims he has been off heroin for many years now, but it doesn't make sense that he would still be on subs at this point, unless he had also continued to struggle with prescription painkillers as of fairly recently.


By the way, that Alan Cross interview was excruciating to watch. That was NOT alcohol. He was doped to the gills on something.


I just wish he would get clean and sober.

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Drinking is actually worse than heroin and the other opiates and stimulants.  The fact that Scott has started young with the drug issues is the main factor at hand. 
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Rather than making a new but similar topic, I went to find a related one.

Loudwire just posted this...

Filter's Richard Patrick Discusses Scott Weiland's Death
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SurbSlR6QH0

Several months before Scott Weiland died on his tour bus in early December, Filter frontman Richard Patrick made headlines when he predicted that Weiland would end up being “a rock star legend that died in a hotel room with a needle sticking out of his arm” if he continued on the path that he was on. Weiland, himself, responded to Patrick’s statement, saying, “I haven’t had a needle in my arm in 13 years.”

Sadly, Patrick’s words proved to be quite prophetic, as Weiland died from an overdose of cocaine, MDA (a form of ecstacy) and alcohol. We recently had Patrick in our studio to discuss Filter’s upcoming album, Crazy Eyes, and he took some time to address Weiland’s death.

In the exclusive video interview above, Patrick tells us, “Scott suffered from a disease that I suffer from — addiction … There’s something about the singer or the personality in the band where you get addicted to drugs.” The Filter frontman goes on to detail his own struggles, before returning to speaking on Weiland, saying, “The thing with addiction is it’s a self-diagnosed disease, so if you don’t know you’re an addict … you’re gonna die … There was clearly neurological damage with [Weiland].”

Patrick goes into much further detail on the subject, including his own drug experiences with Weiland, his thoughts on fans’ reactions to Stone Temple Pilots tapping Chester Bennington as their lead singer and much more — so we encourage you to watch the video above for his full perspective on Weiland’s death.

Filter’s new album, Crazy Eyes, arrives April 8.

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Sucks that he was right. 

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Well, look. Scott's either going to hit "rock bottom" and get himself clean like he did after jail in 1999 or he's going to die young, like Philip Seymour Hoffman. That's really it, I think.

About once a month my mind wanders and wonders if I will wake up one morning soon and it will be him dead. Most ODs occur from mixing drugs. So if Scott is still taking prescription meds and drinking all day, every day, the odds of an OD are pretty good.

Question is, what is rock bottom for him? It's not being fired from his only two bands. It's not lackluster sales for his solo release, low attendance for solo gigs, or poor performances.

Soooo will it be his kids not wanting to come around drunk-high daddy? Will it be embarrassing his kids? Will it be an OD he survives? Getting arrested again in a prescription pill raid?

I've no idea. If it is gonna happen, I hope it happens soon. Otherwise, we will all wake up that morning and finally hear....


This was pretty spot on...to bad we finally find out how it actually ended.