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Re: Projected First Week Sales For High Rise
« Reply #30 on: October 13, 2013, 05:12:44 AM »
Wha? Metallica released an EP last year? 

Dont get t/Obrien comments when it comes to sales, Shangri didn't sell big and that wad when people still bought CDs. Maybe if t/EP was cheaper? $7, plus tax for 5 songs seems high, i wouldnt have bought either if I wasnt a fan, not crazy about t/artwork either.


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Re: Projected First Week Sales For High Rise
« Reply #31 on: October 13, 2013, 06:24:59 AM »
Granted, VR was 10 years ago, but with a big name band (STP) & big name singer (Chester) a fraction of Velvet Revolver's first week success should be looked at as disappointing, even when you factor in the state of music sales.

And for the record...I bought the EP and really enjoy it.

Well people have already pointed out why no one buys EP's for the most part.  But now that you brought up VR, it's worth pointing out that VR had a lot of attention mostly because it was Slash and co. from GnR with a new band. 

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Re: Projected First Week Sales For High Rise
« Reply #32 on: October 13, 2013, 03:38:42 PM »
also....cant compare, cause 10yrs ago more people were buying music. its not the same anymore, in addition its on an EP. i think they put out an EP, to "test the waters" with chester as their frontman, and to prbly get out there tour and make some money.

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Re: Projected First Week Sales For High Rise
« Reply #33 on: October 13, 2013, 03:54:22 PM »
Granted, VR was 10 years ago, but with a big name band (STP) & big name singer (Chester) a fraction of Velvet Revolver's first week success should be looked at as disappointing, even when you factor in the state of music sales.

And for the record...I bought the EP and really enjoy it.

Well people have already pointed out why no one buys EP's for the most part.  But now that you brought up VR, it's worth pointing out that VR had a lot of attention mostly because it was Slash and co. from GnR with a new band.

 Slash and co. from GnR with a new band PLUS the lead singer of one of the biggest rock groups of the 90s.

There's no reason why VR *shouldnt* have sold well.

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Re: Projected First Week Sales For High Rise
« Reply #34 on: October 15, 2013, 08:18:32 PM »
Slash and co. from GnR with a new band PLUS the lead singer of one of the biggest rock groups of the 90s.

There's no reason why VR *shouldnt* have sold well.

I agree with that...I was using it in the sense of a more-than-established band with a (like it or not) big-name lead singer...

Members of STP (using the name to boot) could be the equivalent to Scott in the VR example, and while LP isn't GNR, they also aren't poor-album-selling garage band.
Would Audioslave be better comparison?

I just thought STP w/ CB would have fared better, especially being that OOT was such a rock radio hit.
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Re: Projected First Week Sales For High Rise
« Reply #35 on: October 15, 2013, 09:25:27 PM »
Slash and co. from GnR with a new band PLUS the lead singer of one of the biggest rock groups of the 90s.

There's no reason why VR *shouldnt* have sold well.

I agree with that...I was using it in the sense of a more-than-established band with a (like it or not) big-name lead singer...

Members of STP (using the name to boot) could be the equivalent to Scott in the VR example, and while LP isn't GNR, they also aren't poor-album-selling garage band.
Would Audioslave be better comparison?

I just thought STP w/ CB would have fared better, especially being that OOT was such a rock radio hit.

EP's don't sell, especially these days.  There's just not a whole lot to digest in 5 songs, so people don't see the point in going out and buying a copy.  Only big hit rock EP I can recall is Alice In Chains' Jar of Flies, but that had 7 songs/was released in the band's prime/had one of their biggest hits ever on it.

If they'd released a full album it would have sold more.


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Re: Projected First Week Sales For High Rise
« Reply #36 on: October 15, 2013, 09:42:56 PM »
If you want to make an apples-to-apples comparison, you'd have to compare the STP EP to other EP's that have been released over the past two years or so.


That said, I think we're all aware that in 2013, the money is in touring.

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Re: Projected First Week Sales For High Rise
« Reply #37 on: October 15, 2013, 10:07:24 PM »
I think in 2011 stp released an ep called a taste of and it landed at 181 on Billboard 200 . It din't even sell 1000 copies in it's first week .
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Re: Projected First Week Sales For High Rise
« Reply #38 on: October 15, 2013, 11:45:55 PM »
High rise enters at no 21 .It sold 13.5k in its first week  :) . In my opinion these are very good sales because there last ep only managed to sell about 1 k on it's debut. And, please do not compare an ep sales to a full lp.


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Re: Projected First Week Sales For High Rise
« Reply #39 on: October 16, 2013, 12:10:04 AM »
Slash and co. from GnR with a new band PLUS the lead singer of one of the biggest rock groups of the 90s.

There's no reason why VR *shouldnt* have sold well.

I agree with that...I was using it in the sense of a more-than-established band with a (like it or not) big-name lead singer...

Members of STP (using the name to boot) could be the equivalent to Scott in the VR example, and while LP isn't GNR, they also aren't poor-album-selling garage band.
Would Audioslave be better comparison?

I just thought STP w/ CB would have fared better, especially being that OOT was such a rock radio hit.

EP's don't sell, especially these days.  There's just not a whole lot to digest in 5 songs, so people don't see the point in going out and buying a copy.  Only big hit rock EP I can recall is Alice In Chains' Jar of Flies, but that had 7 songs/was released in the band's prime/had one of their biggest hits ever on it.

If they'd released a full album it would have sold more.


I normally agree with a lot of what you say, but I really do think the strength of the songs and anticipation has more to do with it. There was not much anticipation for Chester and STP--not nearly as much as there was for LP's collaborative EP with Jay-Z. Jar of Flies was the hotly anticipated follow-up to Dirt, which exploded AiC, and it also contained two big hits. One of the songs (albeit technically a single), is an instrumental, so there are really only 6 traditional songs on it, one of which is kind of a novelty swing song. But it was highly anticipated and had high quality songs, including a huge hit.

By contrast, Sap was not as anticipated and didn't have near the hits or quality songs, and sold a lot less.

STPw/CB's EP was not that anticipated--hell, it even had STP fans split--and the songs are average, probably not singles on a stronger release.
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Re: Projected First Week Sales For High Rise
« Reply #40 on: October 16, 2013, 02:52:41 PM »
I thought with Out of Time getting the amount of airplay it had been getting that it may have sparked a little something.
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Re: Projected First Week Sales For High Rise
« Reply #41 on: October 16, 2013, 03:18:38 PM »
Probably shows how lil affect radio airplay has ...
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Re: Projected First Week Sales For High Rise
« Reply #42 on: October 16, 2013, 06:03:36 PM »
I'm looking at the new Nielsen SoundScan chart & see that "High Rise" debuted at #24 with 11,917 album sold (with 60% of total being physical CD sales; 40% digital album downloads).

I didn't expect it to sell 200,000 copies or anything, but even I'll admit that's a disappointing total ... especially after all of the press they've gotten over the past couple months.
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Re: Projected First Week Sales For High Rise
« Reply #43 on: October 16, 2013, 06:10:34 PM »
I thought with Out of Time getting the amount of airplay it had been getting that it may have sparked a little something.

They also gave that song away for free way back in May, then it wasn't available again until October.

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Re: Projected First Week Sales For High Rise
« Reply #44 on: October 16, 2013, 06:43:12 PM »
I'm looking at the new Nielsen SoundScan chart & see that "High Rise" debuted at #24 with 11,917 album sold (with 60% of total being physical CD sales; 40% digital album downloads).

I didn't expect it to sell 200,000 copies or anything, but even I'll admit that's a disappointing total ... especially after all of the press they've gotten over the past couple months.

I was expecting 20-25k, MAYBE 30k.  For a full album I would have predicted in the 40-70k range.

It'll be interesting to see if this shapes how they'll release music, as obviously physical EP releases make them no money.  Releasing them as digital only releases might be smarter, unless they could actually record a full album.  I could really care less about EP physical releases if there's no album booklet (there wasn't one for High Rise).


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