"High Rise" Poll & Reviews

[StoneTempleBrett]

Rolling Stone review:

2 out of 5 stars

Beyond replacing Scott Weiland with a moonlighting Chester Bennington from Linkin Park, this EP - STP's skimpy return after three years - doesn't take chances.  All five songs check in between 3:15 and 3:32, and they're all midtempo.  "Black Heart" and "Cry Cry" at least manage a moderately garage-y, vaguely AC/DC-like boogie stomp, and Dean Deleo sneaks in passably rustic guitar fills here and there.  But the bright power-glam bounce that the band often achieved behind Weiland is missing.  And closing with a dreary number called "Tomorrow" was a lapse in judgement - in the realm of fake grunge, Silverchair own that title forever.

Ouch! Not that they were ever kind to STP, but damn.

Rolling Stone actually praised self-titled (which got good reviews in general), acknowledging STP's legacy a bit and that they were wrong in the past in a sense by doing that.  This is a different band now though without Scott (despite keeping the name) so they won't receive any goodwill based on their legacy from publications like Rolling Stone.  It's not the DeLeos/Kretz's fault, but with Scott gone they lose the respect that 'legacy' acts like Soundgarden and Pearl Jam get, and that STP themselves got in the first 2-3 years of their reunion.

I'm starting to think that they'll need a full album for this endeavor to work commercially, because without it they won't draw in enough new fans/Linkin Park fans.  Because what interest would a modern radio rock fan have in seeing Chester sing a bunch of songs from 20 years ago that he didn't write and just a few new ones?  They need to make a hit album, and perform several new songs like past supergroups (Velvet Revolver/Audioslave).  The only way to make it viable is based on new material/almost being reborn as a new band.  Being a nostalgia act doesn't work as well when you don't have all of the principle members.  They need new fans to replace the long time STP fans that have been lost with the switch and from Scott's poor performances in 2011-2012.  Otherwise the only fanbase you have is what's left of the STP fanbase and die hard Chester/Linkin Park fans who will follow any of his projects.

[RR123]

Can you give me the link of the review?
I was checking the artist list on rolling stone and stone temple pilots cannot be seen anywhere. It looks like they hate them very much. 

[Five Star Edge]

Can you give me the link of the review?
I was checking the artist list on rolling stone and stone temple pilots cannot be seen anywhere. It looks like they hate them very much. 

Not sure if the review has been posted online yet; I just typed it out from the magazine. 

[RR123]

Can you give me the link of the review?
I was checking the artist list on rolling stone and stone temple pilots cannot be seen anywhere. It looks like they hate them very much. 

Not sure if the review has been posted online yet; I just typed it out from the magazine.

Thanks. But why do u buy shitty magazine like rolling stone? . It's the same magazine which put a terrorist on the it's cover page .

[Chris Pepper]

Rolling Stone review:

2 out of 5 stars

Beyond replacing Scott Weiland with a moonlighting Chester Bennington from Linkin Park, this EP - STP's skimpy return after three years - doesn't take chances.  All five songs check in between 3:15 and 3:32, and they're all midtempo.  "Black Heart" and "Cry Cry" at least manage a moderately garage-y, vaguely AC/DC-like boogie stomp, and Dean Deleo sneaks in passably rustic guitar fills here and there.  But the bright power-glam bounce that the band often achieved behind Weiland is missing.  And closing with a dreary number called "Tomorrow" was a lapse in judgement - in the realm of fake grunge, Silverchair own that title forever.

Ouch! Not that they were ever kind to STP, but damn.

Rolling Stone actually praised self-titled (which got good reviews in general), acknowledging STP's legacy a bit and that they were wrong in the past in a sense by doing that.  This is a different band now though without Scott (despite keeping the name) so they won't receive any goodwill based on their legacy from publications like Rolling Stone.  It's not the DeLeos/Kretz's fault, but with Scott gone they lose the respect that 'legacy' acts like Soundgarden and Pearl Jam get, and that STP themselves got in the first 2-3 years of their reunion.

I'm starting to think that they'll need a full album for this endeavor to work commercially, because without it they won't draw in enough new fans/Linkin Park fans.  Because what interest would a modern radio rock fan have in seeing Chester sing a bunch of songs from 20 years ago that he didn't write and just a few new ones?  They need to make a hit album, and perform several new songs like past supergroups (Velvet Revolver/Audioslave).  The only way to make it viable is based on new material/almost being reborn as a new band.  Being a nostalgia act doesn't work as well when you don't have all of the principle members.  They need new fans to replace the long time STP fans that have been lost with the switch and from Scott's poor performances in 2011-2012.  Otherwise the only fanbase you have is what's left of the STP fanbase and die hard Chester/Linkin Park fans who will follow any of his projects.

No shit........Several us have been saying this for months.  Unfortunately, a full album will not save them.  There was no win here.  They should've started a new band instead of damaging STPs name.  People respected Scott's unpredictability.  Yes, even with the wildabouts.  You were too short sighted to see it.  The play was to start a new band w/ Chester and re ignite STP in a few years with Scott.  Everything else is just noise....... 

[DankoJones]

really!?

" And closing with a dreary number called "Tomorrow" was a lapse in judgement - in the realm of fake grunge, Silverchair own that title forever."

[STPGurl]

Can you give me the link of the review?
I was checking the artist list on rolling stone and stone temple pilots cannot be seen anywhere. It looks like they hate them very much. 

Not sure if the review has been posted online yet; I just typed it out from the magazine.

Thanks. But why do u buy shitty magazine like rolling stone? . It's the same magazine which put a terrorist on the it's cover page .

Just "thank" was good enough. No need to troll and try to derail the conversation with unrelated comments (did you read the article about the Boston bomber? RS most certainly didn't glorify him or condone his actions...)

Thanks FiveStar. I still haven't gotten my issue. I appreciate you taking the time to do that.

[EyesOfDisarray]

really!?

" And closing with a dreary number called "Tomorrow" was a lapse in judgement - in the realm of fake grunge, Silverchair own that title forever."

I'll say it again...

music critics are pretty much completely worthless.

[wayne gretzky]

Think thats the worse rating any STP or related release has had .. yes critics are pretty much useless. This guy said all the tunes are midtempo, was Out of Time not on his copy of the EP

[gravedancer]

http://www.newsrecord.org/arts_and_entertainment/weiland-wildcard-factor-redeems-stone-temple-pilots/article_c37676c0-2967-11e3-907c-0019bb30f31a.html
 
I don't really agree with the line "Weiland was never a guy to belt out a chrous" .. but the rest is a harsher version of my own personal feelings.

[StoneTempleBrett]

Rolling Stone review:

2 out of 5 stars

Beyond replacing Scott Weiland with a moonlighting Chester Bennington from Linkin Park, this EP - STP's skimpy return after three years - doesn't take chances.  All five songs check in between 3:15 and 3:32, and they're all midtempo.  "Black Heart" and "Cry Cry" at least manage a moderately garage-y, vaguely AC/DC-like boogie stomp, and Dean Deleo sneaks in passably rustic guitar fills here and there.  But the bright power-glam bounce that the band often achieved behind Weiland is missing.  And closing with a dreary number called "Tomorrow" was a lapse in judgement - in the realm of fake grunge, Silverchair own that title forever.

Ouch! Not that they were ever kind to STP, but damn.

Rolling Stone actually praised self-titled (which got good reviews in general), acknowledging STP's legacy a bit and that they were wrong in the past in a sense by doing that.  This is a different band now though without Scott (despite keeping the name) so they won't receive any goodwill based on their legacy from publications like Rolling Stone.  It's not the DeLeos/Kretz's fault, but with Scott gone they lose the respect that 'legacy' acts like Soundgarden and Pearl Jam get, and that STP themselves got in the first 2-3 years of their reunion.

I'm starting to think that they'll need a full album for this endeavor to work commercially, because without it they won't draw in enough new fans/Linkin Park fans.  Because what interest would a modern radio rock fan have in seeing Chester sing a bunch of songs from 20 years ago that he didn't write and just a few new ones?  They need to make a hit album, and perform several new songs like past supergroups (Velvet Revolver/Audioslave).  The only way to make it viable is based on new material/almost being reborn as a new band.  Being a nostalgia act doesn't work as well when you don't have all of the principle members.  They need new fans to replace the long time STP fans that have been lost with the switch and from Scott's poor performances in 2011-2012.  Otherwise the only fanbase you have is what's left of the STP fanbase and die hard Chester/Linkin Park fans who will follow any of his projects.

No shit........Several us have been saying this for months.  Unfortunately, a full album will not save them.  There was no win here.  They should've started a new band instead of damaging STPs name.  People respected Scott's unpredictability.  Yes, even with the wildabouts.  You were too short sighted to see it.  The play was to start a new band w/ Chester and re ignite STP in a few years with Scott.  Everything else is just noise....... 

Barely anybody respects Scott right now, and his antics got old when his performances went downhill drastically in the last couple of years and prevented him from recording with them.  His unpredictability is a key ingredient to STP, but showing up late and drunk and slurring his way through his hits hurt them (and Scott himself) big time.  That's not 'rock and roll,' it's just depressing.

I do wish in hindsight that they'd used a new name with Chester, but I can't fault them for using it.  It's the brand they've spent over 20 years of their lives building.  It's not their fault Scott was completely unprofessional.  But I think the best idea regardless of the name is a full album, I don't see how they're going to gain fans releasing a few songs at a time and playing 95% old songs.  Playing mostly old songs and being a legacy act just doesn't work as well commercially without the original members.

[Chris Pepper]

Rolling Stone review:

2 out of 5 stars

Beyond replacing Scott Weiland with a moonlighting Chester Bennington from Linkin Park, this EP - STP's skimpy return after three years - doesn't take chances.  All five songs check in between 3:15 and 3:32, and they're all midtempo.  "Black Heart" and "Cry Cry" at least manage a moderately garage-y, vaguely AC/DC-like boogie stomp, and Dean Deleo sneaks in passably rustic guitar fills here and there.  But the bright power-glam bounce that the band often achieved behind Weiland is missing.  And closing with a dreary number called "Tomorrow" was a lapse in judgement - in the realm of fake grunge, Silverchair own that title forever.

Ouch! Not that they were ever kind to STP, but damn.

Rolling Stone actually praised self-titled (which got good reviews in general), acknowledging STP's legacy a bit and that they were wrong in the past in a sense by doing that.  This is a different band now though without Scott (despite keeping the name) so they won't receive any goodwill based on their legacy from publications like Rolling Stone.  It's not the DeLeos/Kretz's fault, but with Scott gone they lose the respect that 'legacy' acts like Soundgarden and Pearl Jam get, and that STP themselves got in the first 2-3 years of their reunion.

I'm starting to think that they'll need a full album for this endeavor to work commercially, because without it they won't draw in enough new fans/Linkin Park fans.  Because what interest would a modern radio rock fan have in seeing Chester sing a bunch of songs from 20 years ago that he didn't write and just a few new ones?  They need to make a hit album, and perform several new songs like past supergroups (Velvet Revolver/Audioslave).  The only way to make it viable is based on new material/almost being reborn as a new band.  Being a nostalgia act doesn't work as well when you don't have all of the principle members.  They need new fans to replace the long time STP fans that have been lost with the switch and from Scott's poor performances in 2011-2012.  Otherwise the only fanbase you have is what's left of the STP fanbase and die hard Chester/Linkin Park fans who will follow any of his projects.

No shit........Several us have been saying this for months.  Unfortunately, a full album will not save them.  There was no win here.  They should've started a new band instead of damaging STPs name.  People respected Scott's unpredictability.  Yes, even with the wildabouts.  You were too short sighted to see it.  The play was to start a new band w/ Chester and re ignite STP in a few years with Scott.  Everything else is just noise....... 

Barely anybody respects Scott right now, and his antics got old when his performances went downhill drastically in the last couple of years and prevented him from recording with them.  His unpredictability is a key ingredient to STP, but showing up late and drunk and slurring his way through his hits hurt them (and Scott himself) big time.  That's not 'rock and roll,' it's just depressing.

I do wish in hindsight that they'd used a new name with Chester, but I can't fault them for using it.  It's the brand they've spent over 20 years of their lives building.  It's not their fault Scott was completely unprofessional.  But I think the best idea regardless of the name is a full album, I don't see how they're going to gain fans releasing a few songs at a time and playing 95% old songs.  Playing mostly old songs and being a legacy act just doesn't work as well commercially without the original members.

You don't respect Scott.  There's lots of love and respect for Scott out there.  Read the reviews pal.  Most people know Scott is from another planet.  And he'll continue to get chances cause he's so talented.  And if he's creatively motivated he's money.  But if you want to drag him out to half filled indian casinos in middle america away from his family to play greatest hits sets, he's not your guy.  The problem as I see is that the Deleos mistakenly think they can half ass it because of STPs catalog.  Putting out mediocre EPs with Chester when they should be working their ass off.  Listen to Corgan or T Reznor, hell even S Weiland.  These guys ache to create and push boundaries to not become nostalgia but the Deleos want to stay comfortable and they have since the reunion.  Super frustrating.....             

For Some reason the Deleos think they don't need Brendan o Brien, they can do things w/out S Weiland.  It's false.  But they're going to have to fall on their faces AGAIN to realize.  Atleast I hope they realize.

[ShaneC]

^^^
 
"But if you want to drag him out to half filled indian casinos in middle america away from his family to play greatest hits sets, he's not your guy"
 
Didn't Scott just finish that exact tour with the WillyKnobs?

[DadaelusJones]

I had a dream last night that Seal had replaced Scott instead of Chester. It was awesome.
 
So yeah, that needs to happen.

[Chris Pepper]

^^^
 
"But if you want to drag him out to half filled indian casinos in middle america away from his family to play greatest hits sets, he's not your guy"
 
Didn't Scott just finish that exact tour with the WillyKnobs?

Can't compare Scott solo to STP.  Not even the same ball game / motivations.  Did you attend a Scott solo show?