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Re: "Not Dead & Not For Sale" Reviews
« Reply #30 on: May 18, 2011, 01:36:11 PM »
I am halfway thru the book and I am a little disappointed at the lack of detail.  It is a bit vague.

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Re: "Not Dead & Not For Sale" Reviews
« Reply #31 on: May 18, 2011, 03:09:59 PM »
I was expecting mixed reviews just based on the fact that the book kept getting delayed and delayed and delayed. It got to the point of 'Enough already! Just release the damn thing!' Apparently, they said screw it and released it. I think if a project keeps getting pushed back multiple times (whether it be a movie, album, or a book) then something is not right.
 
 
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Re: "Not Dead & Not For Sale" Reviews
« Reply #32 on: May 18, 2011, 09:49:58 PM »
I enjoy the reading, I really did. I didn't put it down even once. If I had something fixed would be the ending, I'd have gone for a better closer.

*SPOILER ALERT*

He places himself as the guy next door guy, he's not a rockstar here. There were moments when I felt it was "Scott talking" but there were also a few where it didn't seem like.
The book does not lack of "insight", it's just hidden. You don't have paragraph of it, just lines... you know the kind of lines Scott tends to throw in "If things get dark or things seem dark, there's always the other side. Just like the stock market" kind of thing. Again not as much as I wish but probably they will pop up with a second reading.

Honestly, I did not expect a detailed memoir, I knew he wouldn't open up that much with a bunch of strangers. Because he's not telling the rockstar story, he's being really personal. We half know Scott, enough to figure out he's not that kind of guy. And also this way he could write another book later ;D

I like the way it is written. There are not "chapters", it's like a movie. Everything happens at the same time, and not everything finishes... (like the stripper anecdote, that part was a WTF? so what? haha) He warned you about these holes at the beginning.

The way he approaches religion was very touching. Maybe you have to be catholic to get it, don't know. I am but with my own rules not Church's, if that makes any sense. The way he described it as "no judging and no punishment" is exactly how I always felt it. Feeling him so attached to it after so much shit he's been through was a bit of inspirational for someone who has recently lost much of the faith.

I must say those who wanted to read more about the raping stuff are being kinda selfish. And while we indeed are getting a product (the book or even Scott Weiland himself) that HAS to please us, we can't ignore the fact that there's a man behind and that shit was heavy. I never understood why people think that if they talk about what happened they'll feel better. What Stern did was no good.

When he started talking about No4 songs, I thought finally I'm gonna get my Atlanta theory confirmed...didn't. Good move of him I guess. That song has always saved some mystery.
It was nice to get what LPS is about. I didn't know that, probably missed it.

What I found quite revealing was the way he and Mary were diagnosed with bi-polar (Did not read Mary's book, I'm on it right now). Going together with the same doctor, an specialist in the theme (he sees the disease everywhere), getting test together, isn't it too obvious they were going to get the same result? (just a thought, this is a ground I know nothing about)

The story that opens up the book was a GREAT choice. It's like different elements of it repeat themselves along the book over and over. Intentional or coincidence, it worked. And it's a pretty random story, that why I think it was perfect.

I found it very honest, he's not afraid of telling he liked Talk show and AoA not succeeding, that No4 was a "cash in", that VR started for the money being Mary more into it than him (apparently), that he still resents what STP guys said when they had to cancel Tiny tour, etc.

And found all the pictures adorable ;D Some of the sketchbook pages are familiar ;)

I am definitely getting a different view than most of you, does it have to do with the fact it takes me twice the time to read one page? maybe... Or maybe I read too much between lines, I tend to, I like it :P

I still can't believe I got my book on the 17th! Craaaaaaaaaazy.
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Re: "Not Dead & Not For Sale" Reviews
« Reply #33 on: May 18, 2011, 10:19:00 PM »
Halfway through and I'm very disappointed in this book.  Not to mention it only took me an hour to get halfway through this thing.  Cliff notes is what this is and this should not have been published.  It makes me wonder after reading his account of his life if this is why the Behind the Music segment got put on the shelf - maybe he genuinely doesn't remember enough details about his life for an interesting story.  I don't know.  We all know he's got stories from here until China, but does Scott know that? Or does Scott not think these are interesting?  Who's to say - all I know is this book is extremely disappointing given how long we've waited anxiously for it.

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Re: "Not Dead & Not For Sale" Reviews
« Reply #34 on: May 18, 2011, 10:43:28 PM »
@Shangri After losing all my faith on the book(based on the reviews ive read until now) i read your review and i feel now kind of...relieved!

I guess that when i finally get the book and read it, the fact that i also read twice slower than most of people here will make me get closer to the words written there :)
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Re: "Not Dead & Not For Sale" Reviews
« Reply #35 on: May 18, 2011, 10:47:45 PM »
I hope he writes another one exploring his past much more, going deeper in the remarkable events of his life...

Anyway, i would also like Dean, Robert or Eric to write too..
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Re: "Not Dead & Not For Sale" Reviews
« Reply #36 on: May 18, 2011, 11:47:30 PM »
Wow I would LOVE Dean to write a book!!!  It would be so funny and awsome!!  I love Dean's sense of humour and I would love to hear his view on the last 20 years....
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Re: "Not Dead & Not For Sale" Reviews
« Reply #37 on: May 19, 2011, 02:23:58 AM »
Call it what you want.. Call it a book, a memoir, call it a novel, call it a script or some poetry or an autobiography... All I know is that I walked into a store and purchased a large bounded thing with words in it "written" by one of my favorite musical artists. I really get tired (and I've said it before) about people making excuses because Scott randomly called it a memoir. Maybe all of the other people who stick up for the book were expecting something vague and worthless, but I was expecting rumors and stories. Oh Scott, you almost got into a fight with Dean at the end of the SLDD tour? Tell me more! You were doped out during your early days in VR? Did they know that? Tell me more! I got tired of 2 pages about Mary, 2 pages about STP, 2 pages about Mary, 2 about VR, 2 about Mary and 2 more about VR.. Am I annoying? Yes, that's how Scott's book goes. Random.

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Re: "Not Dead & Not For Sale" Reviews
« Reply #38 on: May 19, 2011, 03:46:47 AM »
Finally got my book in the mail today.
I read about half of it. I could finish tonight, but I'll save it for tomorrow.
I won't get into my thoughts on it until I finish it.

But one thing has really thrown me - Isn't Scott's story on how he and Robert met 100% different from what we've previously heard?
I thought they met at a Black Flag concert, where they discovered they were dating the same girl, then they moved into her apartment together after she split or something close to that.

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Re: "Not Dead & Not For Sale" Reviews
« Reply #39 on: May 19, 2011, 04:21:43 AM »
I haven't read the book yet, I'll probably have the local library order it... however, many of you are criticizing it saying that we already knew everything and that you could essentially read his Wikipedia article... and thats the problem here. In the internet age, you already know everything. Nothing is secret, every bit of info we need to know is at our fingertips. And clearly Scott (based on reviews that I've read on the internet) is not internet savvy.

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Re: "Not Dead & Not For Sale" Reviews
« Reply #40 on: May 19, 2011, 03:53:01 PM »
A lot of news agencies are talking about Weiland rape incidence ..
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Re: "Not Dead & Not For Sale" Reviews
« Reply #41 on: May 19, 2011, 04:32:43 PM »
I am grown up and look at things without bias. You though never let down your Weiland fascination and wouldn't dare call them on any bad thing they've done.

Any interesting recording bits? None of that in this book.
Any fascinating stories relating to touring and the band members? None of that in this book.

Instead we get a few drug stories we've already heard countless times before, now repeated with even fewer details from the man that went through it all. Considering that was practically the primary selling point of the book, I'd say it failed on a major scope.

You though can't accept that. Instead it's "our loss" to those that have already read any article or interview from the band in the past 18 years, since this book is essentially just an extended wikipedia article.

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I absolutely agree with you.
It was a vague book full of shit we already knew with a shit load of pictures we never saw before. We got a picture book.
I ripped through it in a day, and I am a slow reader. Not like "Just kids" that I read all summer, but I was devoring that book. Every word.
But perhaps if your going to release a autobiography wait a few years. When your far away from your addictions so you can look at the ENTIRE picture clearly. He admits to only being 3 months sober at the time of writing it.
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Re: "Not Dead & Not For Sale" Reviews
« Reply #42 on: May 19, 2011, 05:25:47 PM »
Man I was really looking foward to the book, can his own words really be that bad?

Anyways ATTENTION SHANGRI

I have yet to read the book but could you please spoil the meaning of Lady Picture Show that you said you read please?

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Re: "Not Dead & Not For Sale" Reviews
« Reply #43 on: May 19, 2011, 05:42:51 PM »
I haven't read the book yet, I'll probably have the local library order it... however, many of you are criticizing it saying that we already knew everything and that you could essentially read his Wikipedia article... and thats the problem here. In the internet age, you already know everything. Nothing is secret, every bit of info we need to know is at our fingertips. And clearly Scott (based on reviews that I've read on the internet) is not internet savvy.

That's fine to rehash the stories that we already know - a lot of fans don't.  However providing no insight, feelings, thoughts surrounding these events is just lame.  I didn't want to read bullet points about Scott's life.  I wanted to read thoughts and feelings, like what was going through his mind the first time he shot dope.  What was it like touring?  What were the relationships with his bandmates like at all times during the 90's?  Details!  I already know he was a rock star that made millions and took drugs.  This book is seriously probably only about 70 pages if you take out all of the pictures, big text, and BLANK PAGES and half pages.  It's just completely disappointing and I don't know how people are defending it.  I love Scott's music but this book is just a sell out, call a spade a spade.

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Re: "Not Dead & Not For Sale" Reviews
« Reply #44 on: May 19, 2011, 09:07:20 PM »
I haven't read the book yet, I'll probably have the local library order it... however, many of you are criticizing it saying that we already knew everything and that you could essentially read his Wikipedia article... and thats the problem here. In the internet age, you already know everything. Nothing is secret, every bit of info we need to know is at our fingertips. And clearly Scott (based on reviews that I've read on the internet) is not internet savvy.

That's fine to rehash the stories that we already know - a lot of fans don't.  However providing no insight, feelings, thoughts surrounding these events is just lame.  I didn't want to read bullet points about Scott's life.  I wanted to read thoughts and feelings, like what was going through his mind the first time he shot dope.  What was it like touring?  What were the relationships with his bandmates like at all times during the 90's?  Details!  I already know he was a rock star that made millions and took drugs.  This book is seriously probably only about 70 pages if you take out all of the pictures, big text, and BLANK PAGES and half pages.  It's just completely disappointing and I don't know how people are defending it.  I love Scott's music but this book is just a sell out, call a spade a spade.

We already know about the first time he shot dope, there was a really extensive article from back in the day.

http://www.myspace.com/tankman/blog/330331793 Somebody posted it on their MySpace right there.
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