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Re: 2010-03-27 - Chicago, IL - Riviera Theatre
« Reply #75 on: March 28, 2010, 04:23:42 PM »
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Scott was very in and out. The first 3 songs blew me away, but that may have just been the euphoria of seeing one of may fav bands again. Scott speech was slurred, he couldnt keep his balance, and he was of key all night.

Still GREAT to see STP. I LOVE this band. but I will be shocked if Scott makes it through these 2011 tour plans.

I don't know what show you saw man, but this is a totally inaccurate account of the night. No offense, but you mighta been on something yourself.  I'll call it the way it is and this was a great show overall.

I was on the first rail elevated about the floor and had a clear view of the stage the entire night. Scott fell over/lost his balance at least 3 times. he had this scowl on his face for the first half of the show. I cannot buy that he was sober--no way.

just because you thought it was a great show doesnt mean the band was on. if you saw them in the same venue on 10/1/02 this show was about 60% of that in terms of quality of performance. you're entitled to your opinion, but if you ever get to hear this show you will realize it.

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Re: 2010-03-27 - Chicago, IL - Riviera Theatre
« Reply #76 on: March 28, 2010, 05:07:12 PM »
This show kicked ass. This was my seventh show and probably the best. We met Eric after the show by the buses.  Don't listen to the negative reviews about the Milwaukee show. I was there as well and the performance rocked. Agreed there were some issues but most were equipment related. It was quite obvious that Scott's monitors were not working properly. If anyone is familiar with performing on stage it is next to impossible to perform if you can not here what your band mates are playing. There was no signs of anger within the band. I believe the band left the stage quickly out of frustration with equipment malfunction not because they were agitated with Scott. Scott and Dean had eye contact with me and others in the audience through out the show unlike Chicago. Overall both shows rocked for different reasons. This is why I try to catch as many shows as possible.

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Re: 2010-03-27 - Chicago, IL - Riviera Theatre
« Reply #77 on: March 28, 2010, 05:23:11 PM »
This was my 6th time seeing just STP (not including any side projects), my first time being during the Tiny Music... tour and also including the last time they played at the Riviera in 2002.

Although Scott did fall/stumble a couple of times during "Plush" and seemed to forget a couple of lines at the end of the song, this was still one of the best shows I've seen them put on period.  The new songs sounded amazing (YouTube doesn't do them justice, and they are still stuck in my head this morning), and the energy was up there aside from the few hiccups.  I was by Robert on the floor the entire show, and got up a couple people from the rail for the last few songs.

Scott was talkative between a few songs and after giving Dean a peck on the lips after one of the first few songs, he was making some funny comments about how they're both heterosexuals but they just like to show affection.

Scott was acting a little trippy, but come on, that's how he acts at almost every show I've seen him, whether solo, with VR, or STP.  And although Weiland is probably my favorite musician of all time, I won't hesitate to give them a bad review - the first reunion show they played at Northerly Island in 2008 was average at best.  Then I saw them later that year at the Venue in the Horseshoe Casino in Hammond, IN, and that was probably one of the best shows I've ever seen.

A fan's perspective is subjective, and everyone is entitled to have a different opinion.  I'm also very aware their shows may vary from night to night.  But make no mistake - this performance was top notch, and I haven't been this excited about a new album since before Tiny Music... came out (my personal fav).

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Re: 2010-03-27 - Chicago, IL - Riviera Theatre
« Reply #78 on: March 28, 2010, 06:18:40 PM »
Great photos CMCracker!   :)

I can't wait to see the VH1 show!
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Re: 2010-03-27 - Chicago, IL - Riviera Theatre
« Reply #79 on: March 28, 2010, 06:52:23 PM »
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Not even knowing what the show was like, I'm really glad I didn't drop $200 on seeing this show with my fiance. Seeing these clips from past dates, and hearing the new stuff they are playing, for me, it would have been a complete waste of money.

The new songs suck live (I'm holding out hope they will sound much better on the record) and the performances are half-assed. I'm thankful I got to see them in 1996 and 2002... better performances for half the cost.

I'm beginning to think them making this record was just a total cash grab. If it was all about the music, they would have been able to stand each other long enough to record together in the same studio. If it was really about the music, the Deleo's and Kretz should punch Scotty in his fucking head when he goes on stage late and fucks up their music. Listen to your bootlegs from 1994, 1996 and 2002. This is a far cry from that sound.

Don't give me this BS about the band evolving. That's total crap. IT DOESN'T SOUND GOOD ANYMORE!!! If people will be using that they are older, then they shouldn't be out there playing any longer.

By seeing Scott out there hammered night after night or on pills or whatever he's doing, not even in April, I have a feeling they might not make it before the record comes out.

Fuck it. I always come back when they are doing something new. I got frustrated the last time they toured, I got frustrated when Scott did the second solo thing. I kind of dug AOA because the music was halfway decent but I hate Richard Patrick so that went down the dumper for me. I'm glad VR broke up because they annoyed me with their 'biker rock.' Now STP gets back together and it's not even a month into these shows and we get the same old drama with Scott flailing on stage and sounding like shit.

Since things change, maybe I just don't like Scott anymore. Which is weird because I still love all of their old albums and I still listen to all the same music I did 10 and 15 years ago...

Man, you sound as angry I as I used to be back in the late 90's and into 2000-2003.

You have to be a bit rational for a second and realize that you cannot judge a song that is A. performed live and B. recorded in a very poor quality.

Whether or not you like the new CD when/if it comes out is by all means your decision to make, as it is for any of us.

I also agree about spending your personal money to see a show that you feel is lower than the quality you have become used to.

When Elisa and I saw Scott live for his solo tour out in LA, it was one of the best shows I had seen. Next Monday I am introducing her to Black Rebel Motorcycle at the 9:30 Club in DC. Those guys (now with a girl) were one of the best shows to date for me as well.
Spending money for a show should be worth it, and lately it seems like something is up and it has me concerned as well, but I would recommend holding off all judgment until you hear this full disc. I personally love the latest single. If it was the best song on the CD I wouldn't be happy, but I think it is a nice little introduction back to STP for us.

Hang in there like we all have for over 10 years of lurking around these sites. Hopefully it all works out.

Keep your head up VaporRub.

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Re: 2010-03-27 - Chicago, IL - Riviera Theatre
« Reply #80 on: March 28, 2010, 07:22:27 PM »
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OMG THIS IS HOW IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE

Scott came out with a snuggie on and a kid underneath it lol vh1 was indeed taping everything so i cannot wait for that to come out!!  Same setlist as last night and included PIECE OF PIE!!  Scott did fall during plush but it was not in a drug or drunken stupor he tripped over the end of the mat, New songs are sounding better and better live.  Scott did a lot of singing and dancing at the complete in of the stage past the speakers and for about 30 seconds he was singing while holding my hand.. I was in heaven =)  he messed with dean a lot too, always on top pf him and even grabbed his ass at the end of the show.  again lots of smiling and it looked like 4 friends jamming out.  I will write more later.. I am exhausted!

Sooooo happy for you Cori! :) Great pics too.
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Re: 2010-03-27 - Chicago, IL - Riviera Theatre
« Reply #81 on: March 28, 2010, 08:15:28 PM »
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I was on the first rail elevated about the floor and had a clear view of the stage the entire night. Scott fell over/lost his balance at least 3 times. he had this scowl on his face for the first half of the show. I cannot buy that he was sober--no way.

just because you thought it was a great show doesnt mean the band was on. if you saw them in the same venue on 10/1/02 this show was about 60% of that in terms of quality of performance. you're entitled to your opinion, but if you ever get to hear this show you will realize it.

Well, I'm not judging the quality of the whole show by someone tripping on stage, or a scowl on their face, man. I'm going by the quality of the performance, and more than just Scott's performance.  Dean was on fire with the guitars. The solo's crunched enough to let you know that he's a relevant guitar player (i.e. the reverberating, Pink Floydish Sour Girl Solo, or the slightly winding when played live Trippin' solo), but not too much that he's a glam guitar masturbater.

The band themselves was on great time as I recall, and Scott and Robert sounded like they were spot on with their harmonizing during the songs, and they appeared to pull the new stuff off comfortably too. Scott was chatty enough that he seemed pretty coherent to me as well. I'm not saying that he wasn't somehow intoxicated, but he seemed on the money to me.

I'm just trying to point out that any of the criticism's you've levied are based on what you saw of Scott - him falling once. I'm thinking that to support your complaint you've exaggerated a bit regarding the show's poor vocals, and now you've added that Scott had a "scowl". Hardly a relevant criticism.
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Re: 2010-03-27 - Chicago, IL - Riviera Theatre
« Reply #82 on: March 28, 2010, 08:15:55 PM »
I am almost sad today.. that whole let down after the show in my case shows because it's over..LOL BOOOO  Come back boys!
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Re: 2010-03-27 - Chicago, IL - Riviera Theatre
« Reply #83 on: March 28, 2010, 08:21:49 PM »
On another, somewhat silly note... there was some guy with a beard with his super skinny, little girlfriend standing next to us on the ramp for a while at the show before disappearing into the crowd.

I swear that I've seen a picture of that guy on the forums before... was that anyone here?

Again, really dumb addition to the thread, but I thought I'd ask. :)
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Re: 2010-03-27 - Chicago, IL - Riviera Theatre
« Reply #84 on: March 28, 2010, 08:28:03 PM »
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Scott was very in and out. The first 3 songs blew me away, but that may have just been the euphoria of seeing one of may fav bands again. Scott speech was slurred, he couldnt keep his balance, and he was of key all night.

Still GREAT to see STP. I LOVE this band. but I will be shocked if Scott makes it through these 2011 tour plans.

 Been monitoring the situation very closely and I' d say you must have been slurred. Have been sent several vids from Milwaukee and Chicago........what ever happened with the demise of the show's dead and bloated in Milwaukee. The meds he was on must have crapped out on him at the end.
 Chicago on another note he was on fire from start til end.
check it:
http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLWKRwRB2tQ

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvYuEdpU6jc

Congrats CMcracker on your excellent pics and journey.

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Re: 2010-03-27 - Chicago, IL - Riviera Theatre
« Reply #85 on: March 28, 2010, 09:35:52 PM »
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Scott was very in and out. The first 3 songs blew me away, but that may have just been the euphoria of seeing one of may fav bands again. Scott speech was slurred, he couldnt keep his balance, and he was of key all night.

Still GREAT to see STP. I LOVE this band. but I will be shocked if Scott makes it through these 2011 tour plans.

 Been monitoring the situation very closely and I' d say you must have been slurred. Have been sent several vids from Milwaukee and Chicago........what ever happened with the demise of the show's dead and bloated in Milwaukee. The meds he was on must have crapped out on him at the end.
 Chicago on another note he was on fire from start til end.
check it:
http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLWKRwRB2tQ

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvYuEdpU6jc

Congrats CMcracker on your excellent pics and journey.

I hate to say it, but Scott is DEFINITELY moving like he's messed up in that Between The Lines video.... He doesn't really dance with his arms that much anymore.
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Re: 2010-03-27 - Chicago, IL - Riviera Theatre
« Reply #86 on: March 28, 2010, 09:42:23 PM »
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Scott was very in and out. The first 3 songs blew me away, but that may have just been the euphoria of seeing one of may fav bands again. Scott speech was slurred, he couldnt keep his balance, and he was of key all night.

Still GREAT to see STP. I LOVE this band. but I will be shocked if Scott makes it through these 2011 tour plans.

 Been monitoring the situation very closely and I' d say you must have been slurred. Have been sent several vids from Milwaukee and Chicago........what ever happened with the demise of the show's dead and bloated in Milwaukee. The meds he was on must have crapped out on him at the end.
 Chicago on another note he was on fire from start til end.
check it:
http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLWKRwRB2tQ

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvYuEdpU6jc

Congrats CMcracker on your excellent pics and journey.

I hate to say it, but Scott is DEFINITELY moving like he's messed up in that Between The Lines video.... He doesn't really dance with his arms that much anymore.

The dude's got a broken ankle and he's not wearing a cast. If he's standing up, then he's on pain meds... Which in it's self is kind of scary because we don't want him ending up addicted to painkillers like Steven Tyler.

But anyway, I wouldn't be worrying about hard drugs and even booze really at this point. If in a month his ankle is healed and he's still acting like this, THEN it's time to worry.
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Re: 2010-03-27 - Chicago, IL - Riviera Theatre
« Reply #87 on: March 28, 2010, 11:24:19 PM »
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Been monitoring the situation very closely and I' d say you must have been slurred. Have been sent several vids from Milwaukee and Chicago........what ever happened with the demise of the show's dead and bloated in Milwaukee. The meds he was on must have crapped out on him at the end.
 Chicago on another note he was on fire from start til end.
check it:
http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLWKRwRB2tQ

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvYuEdpU6jc

Congrats CMcracker on your excellent pics and journey.

Who ever took the vids had to be standing right next to me..That is exactly where I was!
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Re: 2010-03-27 - Chicago, IL - Riviera Theatre
« Reply #88 on: March 29, 2010, 12:13:34 AM »
you guys are free to think what you want. I've listened to the show again since then and stand by my initial reaction from last night. for those of you who think I was on something, I wasnt. I've been listening to live STP recordings for 15 years and I'm not talking about youtube clips.

the band was tight, Scott was not. it may just be the wear and tear of years of drug abuse. if he was on something, then its amazing he could keep up as much as he did. his demeanor and speech lead me to believe he was not 100% sober. am I worried about him? yes.

my opinion. we'll see. I hope I'm wrong, I really do.
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Re: 2010-03-27 - Chicago, IL - Riviera Theatre
« Reply #89 on: March 29, 2010, 12:25:05 AM »
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you guys are free to think what you want. I've listened to the show twice today and stand by my initial reaction from last night. for those of you who think I was on something, I wasnt. I've been listening to live STP recordings for 15 years and I'm not talking about youtube clips.

the band was tight, Scott was not. it may just be the wear and tear of years of drug abuse. if he was on something, than its amazing he could keep up as much as he did. his demeanor and speech lead me to believe he was not 100% sober. am I worried about him? yes.

my opinion. we'll see. I hope I'm wrong, I really do.

I agree with you. Not sure what he's on, but he's on something. The more I watch that video of Between The Lines, the more I think that.... I'm not dissing Scott or anything, but I've seen him fucked up, and I've seen him sober.

There is no way he is completely sober in that video. He might not be fucked, but he's on something. Could be booze, could be pain pills, could be both.
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