General discussion about 2008 tour dates

[loungefly611]

Hopefully there's only one band opening for them at the non-festival shows...
And hopefully the band(s) are good...
I find some shows with 2 or 3 opening bands to drag too much...

It should only be one band. I usually go to shows with 3-4 bands, but their setlists are shorter and the headliner only plays an hour and fifteen/hour and a half tops. Plus those shows start earlier. You figure STP will play atleast two hours. Maybe a little over. So, I anticipate one opener.

[errol]

Frank Black is openin for the majority of the dates

[errol]

Does Frank play any Pixies songs as a solo artist live?

[wild_eyes]

Who's Frank Black?

[stpwkdgrdn]

Who's Frank Black?

Founding member of the Pixies.  Awesome band.  His solo stuff i pretty awesome too.  I saw him in a tiny club in Albany, NY a few years back.  It rocked

[wild_eyes]

Awesome! It strange of me but I never really listened to the Pixies. Especially for being a punk fan...I'll have to check them out more in depth.

[Getinrowdy3]

Ok, so they played 17 songs during their first show.  After "Lady Picture Show," Scott said that they would be changing the setlist every night and reaching deep into their reportoire.  Dean also mentioned in an interview that they were practicing roughly 35 songs, so I broke down the songs that they have a history of playing from each album, and songs they have rarely played to give us an idea of what the 18-20 songs that they didn't play in the Ohio show might be:

Core
6 songs played, 6 left (4 left w/o Wet My Bed and No Memory Instrumentals)
Songs not played but will probably be played:
1)   Piece of Pie
2)   Sin
Songs that do not have a history of much play:
1)   Naked Sunday
2)   Where the River Goes

Purple
4 songs played, 7 left
Songs not played but will probably be played:
1)   Unglued
2)   Pretty Penny
3)   Meatplow
Songs that do not have a history of much play:
1)   Still Remains
2)   Silvergun Superman
3)   Army Ants
4)   Kitchenware and Candybars

Tiny Music
3 songs played, 9 left (7 left w/o instrumentals)
Songs not played but will probably be played:
1)   Tumble in the Rough
2)   Seven Caged Tiger
Songs that do not have a history of much play:
1)   Art School Girlfriend
2)   Adhesive Love
3)   Ride the Cliche
4)   Pop Love Suicide
5)   And So I know

No. 4
2 songs played, 9 left
Songs not played but will probably be played:
1)   No Way Out
2)   Sex and Violence
3)   Atlanta
Songs that do not have a history of much play:
1)   Heaven and Hotrods
2)   Pruno
3)   Church on Tuesday
4)   Glide
5)   I Got You
6)   MC5

Shangri La
1 song played, 12 left
Songs not played but will probably be played:
1)   Days of the Week
2)   Hollywood Bitch
3)   Wonderful
4)   Tool Cool Queenie
5)   Long Way Home
Songs that do not have a history of much play:
1)   Dumb Love
2)   Black Again
3)   Hello It’s Late
4)   Regeneration
5)   Bi-Polar Bear
6)   Transmissions from a Lonely Room
7)   A Song for Sleeping


So I calculated 15 additional songs that they have played before with some regularity in addition to the ones they played in Ohio.  I hope they reach DEEP in their repertiore and pull out the songs they rarely, if ever, have played.  And I would assume if they do that, it will be in the amphitheater shows where they are featured as opposed to a festival in which they are playing to casual fans

[VeiledTrickerySTP]

Still Remains is like the most beautiful song the band ever made. The lyrics alone are so well crafted. That would be an awesome song to be played live, especially acoustically! Are you sure they've never played that one live? I always thought that that song was one of their most popular non-single releases?

[Getinrowdy3]

they have played it live, but i want to say that from 99-02 they only played it only a handful of times

[justbill]

Perhaps. . . Studio time? Make an EP?! I know, I know. . . wishful thinking at best.

[hawk900]

heh, i read the subject for this post, and immediately thought there was going to be a sienfeld reference.

What's the deal with Ovaltine?
It comes in a round container, you put it in a round glass, why don't they call it Roundtine?

no...no laughs?
i hear crickets out there

 HA HA

Why is it that if you make a wrong turn off a freeway you could end up in the hood?
Is the city a giant sweatshirt and that part is the hood?
What is the deal?

LOL!!!!!!

[loungefly611]

They played Still Remains at the 10/2/02 Chicago show I went too. It was a nice surprise indeed.

[Aaron]

So far this tour Scott has botched at least a portion of the following songs (I believe there may be more, but I am working on memory right now):
Lounge Fly
Coma
Down
Vasoline

I know I'll get chastised for this, but that is pretty pathetic.  Luckily his voice sounds so great or people would be more upset, but its pretty ridiculous that the band is struggling through songs at this point.  With all the news swirling around Scott right now, you think he would buckle down and get the job done- get practiced up and know your own songs.  The guy is my favorite singer in Rock and Roll, but he clearly is taking things for granted here, while no doubt cashing that fat paycheck the band keeps talking about. 

I'm not limiting this to just Scott either, the band in a few situations seems to be off cue as well.  Take the beginning of All in the suit... There is clearly hesitation as to that the song is starting.  I know they haven't been playing shows TOGETHER in 5-6 years, but the band has been playing shows in their side projects.  I know people will defend them saying early tour jitters, etc; however the fact of the matter remains that these guys are professionals.  They should be well rehearsed and not having these problems at this point.  They are paid millions to show up and be professionals. 

I love STP more than just about anything.  The music and Scotts voice both sound great, but I really feel like songs shouldn't be getting screwed up right now.  Lots of big bands have reuinited after long breaks without these major hic-ups. 

STP seems to be on the right track for the first time in a long time: variations of recorded songs (not just playing the song the same as the cd version), rotating setlists (still remains to be seen), good variety of songs, energetic performances by the members.  However, they clearly need to rehearse more. 

Is anyone else a little disappointed? 

[NakedFountain]

Is there any videoes of this?

[Aaron]

Is there any videoes of this?

Kimmel video shows the vasoline problem.
Bootleg of 05-17-2008 ROTR audio shows most of the other problems
That, and fan reviews of 05-18-2008