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Contraband, 12 years today.
« on: June 09, 2016, 03:37:21 AM »
Hard to believe but Contraband is 12 years old today.

Loudwire has a cool write up.

http://loudwire.com/velvet-revolver-contraband-album-anniversary/

By the time the 21st Century rolled around, many Guns N’ Roses fans were wondering if and when we might ever see the long-teased Chinese Democracy album. Meanwhile, most of the band’s original lineup had moved on to other projects, but hadn’t seen much success. Then, in April 2002, came a supposed one-off reunion that turned into something special.

Former Guns N’ Roses guitarist Slash, bassist Duff McKagan and drummer Matt Sorum got together to play a tribute concert for ailing Motley Crue drummer Randy Castillo in Hollywood. Rounding out the band was Buckcherry frontman Josh Todd and guitarist Keith Nelson. What was evident from that one show was that Slash, Duff and Matt still had the chemistry and felt like they could start anew. And while Todd and Nelson were initially part of the project, the ex-GN’R trio decided to move forward without either.

By September, they were putting out ads seeking a vocalist “somewhere in the realm of early Alice Cooper/Steven Tyler, the harder-edged side of McCartney and Lennon.” By October 2002, the still unnamed act added guitarist Dave Kushner, who had played with McKagan in Loaded. In addition, another former Gunner, Izzy Stradlin, was reportedly writing with the group, though he would eventually exit the project after a few weeks.

Over the next few months, a few names surfaced as potential vocalists. Days of the New‘s Travis Meeks, Neurotica’s Kelly Shaefer, Sebastian Bach, Lit‘s A. Jay Popoff and future Slash band member Todd Kerns were among the names rumored to have tried out, while Faith No More‘s Mike Patton, future Alter Bridge and Slash vocalist Myles Kennedy and The Cult‘s Ian Astbury were also rumored to be invited to audition, but each had reportedly turned down the offers. Then, in April 2003, Stone Temple Pilots vocalist Scott Weiland became available and eventually landed the gig.

Guitarist Dave Kushner told KNAC.com, “It was so undeniable. It was him … It’s like he came in and we gave him a demo of one song, and he came back a day and a half later and it was ‘Set Me Free,’ you know, it was from The Hulk soundtrack … And once we listened to that, it was like, ‘All right. This is the guy.'”

However, a month later, Weiland was arrested after a traffic collision and was charged on suspicion of driving under the influence and drug possession. The singer entered rehab in June and the band worked around his rehab sessions.

After settling on the name Velvet Revolver, the band played their first show at the El Rey in Los Angeles. The set mostly consisted of Stone Temple Pilots and Guns N’ Roses covers, but there were two new tracks that surfaced — “Set Me Free” and “Slither.” Not long after, the group inked a record deal with RCA and the beginnings of their first album were set in motion.

Speaking about the process, Kushner stated, “We really wrote… we wrote about 60 songs with Scott. Of course we had been writing songs for about a year. Once we found Scott, he listened to all the songs, and he picked out about six or seven that he thought he could really do his thing on. Once we did those, then we wrote six or seven more songs together, with all five of us in the room, as a band. And that was it. That was the record.”

As stated, “Set Me Free” was the first song most people heard from Velvet Revolver. The song arrived in 2003 as a soundtrack cut for the film The Hulk. The driving rocker was produced by Nick Raskulinecz with the song’s main riff generated by Slash, who also lent a rather complicated guitar solo to the song. By the time the Contraband album came out nearly a year later, the track had a few changes. The summer of 2003 also saw the band record another soundtrack song as they covered Pink Floyd‘s “Money” for The Italian Job remake. However, that song was left off the Contraband disc.

Once the band got down to work on tracks, they revived the raw, gritty energy once held by Guns N’ Roses. Weiland told Rolling Stone, “As a whole, the album is a true representation of the best aspects of STP’s music, and the best aspects of Guns N’ Roses, when they were at their best — vicious, streamlined, living off strippers, and their music was great. It’s a perfect marriage between the two.”

After “Set Me Free” helped pave the way, the band released their debut disc Contraband on June 8, 2004. And fresh out of the gate, they issued a true banger — “Slither” — which was widely embraced by listeners. From the opening slow burn of the song to the aggressive, blistering guitar and Weiland’s sinisterly soulful delivery, Velvet Revolver had the kind of song they needed to truly launch their career. And fans agreed, as “Slither” shot to the top of Billboard‘s Mainstream Rock Tracks chart for nine weeks and the Modern Rock Tracks chart for four weeks. In 2005, the band was rewarded with a Grammy for Best Hard Rock Performance for the song.

Next up for the band was the touching ballad “Fall to Pieces.” Weiland penned the track about his battle with heroin and the toll it took on his wife Mary Forsberg, who guest starred in the video for the song. Slash recalled, “Before Scott joined, we tried out a lot of different singers, and a lot of them sang this song. No matter who sang it, it always sounded like a Top 40 song, but when Scott came in and sang it, he was going through all this s–t and trying to get his life back together. He wrote the lyrics, and the way they fit the music was chilling. The night he sang it was the same night he got arrested, so it’s a poignant timepiece for us.” “Fall to Pieces” would spend 11 weeks at No. 1 on the Mainstream Rock Tracks chart.

The fourth single to come from ‘Contraband’ would be “Dirty Little Thing,” a high energy rocker that dated back to the early days of the band with Todd and Nelson still involved. Nelson earned a songwriting credit for the track though no longer with the group. Featuring some killer opening bass from Duff McKagan and nifty guitar work from Slash, “Dirty Little Thing” was just the type of song meant to be played live. It would eventually top out at No. 8 on the Mainstream Rock Tracks chart.

And speaking of great live songs, “Sucker Train Blues” fits the bill. “This song developed from one of my riffs, basically. When I presented it to the band, it was 10 times slower, but we sped the whole thing up,” recalls Slash. “This is a very different kind of song for me because I recorded it with an old Fifties Telecaster and played the solo on a ’65 Strat. I also put a baritone Music Man underneath the guitars.”

After several years of struggling in their post-GN’R careers, what it took was a reunion of that chemistry to put them back on top again. Velvet Revolver’s Contraband was a huge success. It debuted at No. 1 and went on to be certified double platinum in an era when record sales had begun declining. In addition, the new spotlight gave them more opportunities like performing at the Grammys and joining some of the greats.

McKagan stated in an interview with Billboard, “It seems like this band — the reincarnation of ourselves in another thing — has been accepted now into this whole other kind of upper echelon. We played with Elton John and Stevie Wonder. We’re asked to be the band to play on the Grammys and all these other magnificent things. Finally, we’re respected as players.”

As we now know, the dynamic personalities would eventually come to clash leading to a highly publicized split with Scott Weiland after the promotion of Velvet Revolver’s second album. The years since have found the band never quite shutting the door permanently, but never finding the right vocalist to fill the void either. Still, with the promise of what Contraband gave us, there’s hope that the talents involved with the group will eventually settle on a vocalist and give it another go.
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Re: Contraband, 12 years today.
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2016, 09:39:02 AM »
2004 was such a fun Summer... I loved racing out to get Contraband when it was released, and then racing home to spin the CD. I loved hearing "Slither" on the radio so often as well as "Fall To Pieces"...

I discovered my love for STP late in 2003, go figure as they were on their indefinite hiatus... but I was captivated by Scott and anything he did, so I loved that I was getting to see the next chapter of his career play out in the "mainstream" world of radio and some TV outlets.

Contraband is one of my favorite albums. I honestly think the track listing is as close to perfection as an album could get. The energy flows so well and backs off the throttle at the perfect moment, before going all out again... I usually keep this album for certain times, and certain moods I feel. "Spectacle" and "Sucker Train Blues" have usually been my favorites which would edge the others out... but they're all so good.

I love Scott's aggression with the album. It's a nice addition to his own personal "discography".

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Re: Contraband, 12 years today.
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2016, 10:11:44 AM »
Velvet Revolver was my introduction to Scott/STP, loved Contraband in middle school.  I got into Velvet Revolver in around 2005 and saw them in 2006 at one of the last Contraband era shows.  I'm very fortunate that I became a fan of Scott during one of his sober periods, and that my first time ever seeing him was when when he was at the top of his game.


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Re: Contraband, 12 years today.
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2016, 01:52:17 PM »
2004 was such a fun Summer... I loved racing out to get Contraband when it was released, and then racing home to spin the CD. I loved hearing "Slither" on the radio so often as well as "Fall To Pieces"...

I discovered my love for STP late in 2003, go figure as they were on their indefinite hiatus... but I was captivated by Scott and anything he did, so I loved that I was getting to see the next chapter of his career play out in the "mainstream" world of radio and some TV outlets.

Contraband is one of my favorite albums. I honestly think the track listing is as close to perfection as an album could get. The energy flows so well and backs off the throttle at the perfect moment, before going all out again... I usually keep this album for certain times, and certain moods I feel. "Spectacle" and "Sucker Train Blues" have usually been my favorites which would edge the others out... but they're all so good.

I love Scott's aggression with the album. It's a nice addition to his own personal "discography".


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Re: Contraband, 12 years today.
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2016, 02:18:17 PM »
It was most definitely a solid album. The thing that I remember about those days is that I went to see them in Philly before the album came out, and so many of the songs immediately jumped out at me. Typically, at least in my experience, hearing a song for the first time in a live format doesn't always result in a connection with the material, but these songs hooked me in right off the bat. It was an electric performance.
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Re: Contraband, 12 years today.
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2016, 02:32:38 PM »
Was an exciting time for sure. Scott struck gold twice and when VR was motivated and rolling at full strength they were a hell of a live band. Def. some of the best concerts I've gone to were those first few VR tours.

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Re: Contraband, 12 years today.
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2016, 02:44:06 PM »
Contraband was a decent effort. But after hearing Scott on 5 STP albums, and 12BB, well, lets just say, it's nowhere near as good as any of those albums. I don't listen to it much any more.

Also, the production was horrible on it, it's a total smush of noise. I think Libertad is superior in all respects to Contraband, songwriting, performance, and production especially.

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Re: Contraband, 12 years today.
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2016, 03:01:30 PM »
Was an exciting time for sure. Scott struck gold twice and when VR was motivated and rolling at full strength they were a hell of a live band. Def. some of the best concerts I've gone to were those first few VR tours.

Even though STP had been through a "break up" before, this felt different (at the time) because I viewed this as having the potential of being even more successful.

Contraband was a decent effort. But after hearing Scott on 5 STP albums, and 12BB, well, lets just say, it's nowhere near as good as any of those albums. I don't listen to it much any more.

Also, the production was horrible on it, it's a total smush of noise. I think Libertad is superior in all respects to Contraband, songwriting, performance, and production especially.

The production on Contraband was definitely a departure from Brendan's work, but then again, each STP record and 12BB were sonically very different from one another. Of course, Libertad was more in line with STP's "sound", but I disagree that the songwriting was better. There are definitely still some good songs but listening back to Libertad it sounds like the flame was burning out. I can't quite put my finger on it, but that feeling is there for me.
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Re: Contraband, 12 years today.
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2016, 03:25:58 PM »
Nice write up and yes it was a great time, the band had so much hype going on. I remember when Set me Free came out, wast to impressed with it, was ok but hearing Slither really got me excited for this group.

Im with some, Contraband is a good album but I hardly listen to it much and prefer Libertad to it.  But Scotts never been edgier for lack of a better term then on Contraband and showed another aspect of what he could bring to music
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Re: Contraband, 12 years today.
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2016, 03:52:04 PM »

The production on Contraband was definitely a departure from Brendan's work, but then again, each STP record and 12BB were sonically very different from one another. Of course, Libertad was more in line with STP's "sound", but I disagree that the songwriting was better. There are definitely still some good songs but listening back to Libertad it sounds like the flame was burning out. I can't quite put my finger on it, but that feeling is there for me.

It's not just that it was a departure though, it's that it was bad. There's little separation between the different sounds, and it's just so in your face it jars my ears. I just think they did a bad job on it.

The songwriting was more considered and nuanced on Libertad I think, of course, balls out cock-rock riffs are more some people's cup of tea and I can respect that. It doesn't really do it for me though.

Also, I find the ballads to be too sickly, and Slash's guitar work on the subtle stuff like Loving the Alien really showed him in a negative light compared to a highly versatile player like Dean. That goes for all of VR's output though, not just Contraband.

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Re: Contraband, 12 years today.
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2016, 05:29:52 PM »
2004 was such a fun Summer... I loved racing out to get Contraband when it was released, and then racing home to spin the CD. I loved hearing "Slither" on the radio so often as well as "Fall To Pieces"...

I discovered my love for STP late in 2003, go figure as they were on their indefinite hiatus... but I was captivated by Scott and anything he did, so I loved that I was getting to see the next chapter of his career play out in the "mainstream" world of radio and some TV outlets.

Contraband is one of my favorite albums. I honestly think the track listing is as close to perfection as an album could get. The energy flows so well and backs off the throttle at the perfect moment, before going all out again... I usually keep this album for certain times, and certain moods I feel. "Spectacle" and "Sucker Train Blues" have usually been my favorites which would edge the others out... but they're all so good.

I love Scott's aggression with the album. It's a nice addition to his own personal "discography".


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The order that those particular songs are listed in. Not saying those songs are perfection... Either way, its my post and my opinion.  Such a cool thing to take someone's words and then just basically flip them off with a "wow" reply... And not even say anything about the topic itself. Not surprised though.

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Re: Contraband, 12 years today.
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2016, 06:18:16 PM »
I know I've said this here somewhere before, but Contraband was the first thing I ever heard that was Scott related (except for maybe Plush in Grand Theft Auto, lol). I can remember my Dad was building this giant computer cabinet for me and he was blasting it out of these speakers I had and I was totally drawn to them - but I was 12 in 2004 and very narrow minded as far as music goes so I didn't explore any further. I can remember being really excited to get Libertad, and that's really when I started to get into STP. So it started with Velvet Revolver for me.


I can completely understand people who grew up with STP not really liking VR because it's just wildly different, especially that first album. For me, it was really one of those introduction CD's to hard rock music. It's one of my first favorite albums and I think the songwriting is amazing. They were all hungry and angry and ready to prove themselves to the world and it shows. One comment someone made about Scott on this album on these forums at some point still sticks in my head: it was like a lyrical assault. All that pent up frustration just came pouring out of him, and it probably resonated with me because I was an angst filled teenager. Still does.


Sucker Train Blues is epic, and how can you deny Big Machine? "We're all slaves to a big machine" is fucking brilliant. I drive a lot for work and I find myself listening to this album a lot. Libertad is a lot looser and you can kind of dance to it, but some days I just want to rock the fuck out and this album always allows me to do that.
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Re: Contraband, 12 years today.
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2016, 07:32:22 PM »
Contraband was a decent effort. But after hearing Scott on 5 STP albums, and 12BB, well, lets just say, it's nowhere near as good as any of those albums. I don't listen to it much any more.

Also, the production was horrible on it, it's a total smush of noise. I think Libertad is superior in all respects to Contraband, songwriting, performance, and production especially.

This is where I'm at with VR. 


I don't even know anyone that actually listens to VR.  The love for them on this site is a bit eye opening to me, but it is a Stone Temple Pilots Message Board.


Admittedly, I wrote them off as garbage immediately and have never given them a fair chance.
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Re: Contraband, 12 years today.
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2016, 09:04:02 PM »
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Re: Contraband, 12 years today.
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2016, 09:07:39 PM »
Contraband was a decent effort. But after hearing Scott on 5 STP albums, and 12BB, well, lets just say, it's nowhere near as good as any of those albums. I don't listen to it much any more.

Also, the production was horrible on it, it's a total smush of noise. I think Libertad is superior in all respects to Contraband, songwriting, performance, and production especially.

This is where I'm at with VR. 


I don't even know anyone that actually listens to VR.  The love for them on this site is a bit eye opening to me, but it is a Stone Temple Pilots Message Board.


Admittedly, I wrote them off as garbage immediately and have never given them a fair chance.

I have recently started listening to some VR. I never really like much of their stuff, but I copied all of the music from my computer to my phone and have been shuffling through it at the gym. VR have been coming up, and I admit to liking it more than I remember.

I always kind of wanted VR to fail back then, since STP was my favorite. I felt sort of frustrated with that situation, as an STP fan.
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