Robert & Dean To Perform @ Adopt The Arts (May 12, 2016)

[andrew]

When I say "worked with" I mean "played with"

As far as I'm concerned they haven't written music with nearly enough musicians.

Otherwise they probably wouldn't have to try and live off their past successes...


Unlike Kenny Rogers who knows when to hold 'em or when to fold 'em, or like Lemmy who only needs the Ace of Spades, the DeLeos would show up to the casino and bet it all on blue when it turns out they're playing roulette and their only options are red and black. I DON'T GET WHY WE LOSE 100% OF THE TIME

[Flyingmerpa]

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[Blue]

That's fucking hilarious.

Corey Taylor is too much of a "macho asshole" for STP?
 


Says one of the most vocal supporters of "STP" with that whiny wanker who whines more than they sing.... AKA the "grandfather of emo", AKA that guy whose lyrics you can only relate to when you're still in high school.....


Slipknot and Stone Sour are both wayyyyy worse than Linkin Park, but Corey Taylor and "STP" would run circles around the mediocre crap "STP" w/ CB put out on their "more forgettable than Talk Show" EP.
Or whatever it was called.

Yeah, who the fuck would want STP to have a lead singer who has made their career singing about relationships falling apart, escaping reality through substance abuse, and childhood traumas revolving around child abuse?

Oh wait...

And despite your "Linkin Park wasn't cool when I was in High School, so I have to bash everything related to them at every opportunity or else my friends will make fun of me and give me wedgies" attitude, Chester actually has a reputation as one of the most down to Earth frontmen in the industry. Corey Taylor, on the other hand, tends to be an obnoxious macho douche at times.

[Blue]

After having said "I like his work with Stone Sour" and then realizing I haven't actually heard Stone Sour in over a decade, I decided to go back and listen to some of their songs... They are way worse than I remembered. Don't know what I was thinking back then. 

[Down-Plush]

Never have enjoyed Hughes voice. He can belt and keep up with a lot of singers half his age and everything, but I just can't get into his singing at all. Not a fan of his sound, singing anything really.

[Pingfah]

Black Country Communion with Hughes and Joe Bonamassa are brilliant, and are coming back next year.

[Scott4ever]

Black Country Communion with Hughes and Joe Bonamassa are brilliant, and are coming back next year.

Don't forget Jason Bonham is in there too.  I wish California Breed would get back together before BCC does, IMO.

[Blue]

Black Country Communion with Hughes and Joe Bonamassa are brilliant, and are coming back next year.

Hadn't heard they were getting back together. Glad to hear it.

Wonder how long it will last though. Hughes is very difficult to work with, from what I understand... And it's not like Bonamassa doesn't already have a ludicrously successful solo career.

[Pingfah]

True, but I think Bonamassa really got a taste for playing heavy rock and misses it. Some of his solos on those albums are brilliant.

I didn't like California Breed as much. Andrew Watt is good, but I don't understand why it was all grungy sounding riffs, I don't think it suited Hughes. And I wanted some epic guitar solos, there aren't any on that album really. And it missed the keyboards IMO.

[Alex]

Anyway, Corey Taylor has a great voice and I like his work with Stone Sour... I'd be okay with him fronting 'STP' if it weren't for the fact that he's the exact kind of macho asshole the band has been trying to separate themselves from since the very beginning.

That's a big thing. I don't want any of that macho crap touching STP. That's something huge that I have always liked about this band. It has such a unique vibe that comes through the music, you know that macho bullshit doesn't exist here... there is no tough guy fuck-ery here. I see enough of that every day to where I need STP to come through for me at the end of a day and get me back to that "real" and "pure" place their work takes me to.

I really almost want this search stuff to just stop. No matter what happens half of us are probably going to be upset about who takes the singing duties for STP, for one reason or another. There is one helluva legacy in place as it stands right now. I love the legacy "My favorite" band has laid out over the last 20+ years. I don't want anything to tarnish the vibe this band has.

Regardless to the band's philosophy, don't you think that Scott behaved himself as a tough guy during, at least, Core era?
I'm listening to bootlegs right now, and every time he is tough and rough.
He often says things like "fuck", "fuck in the ass" or even "suck my dick", etc.
And speaking about album too - we can hear the toughness, roughness all over "Core", it was just the vibe of his voice.
I'm not sure whether it is a macho behavior, but at least Scott was a tough guy in Core era (not sure about Purple yet, haven't listen closely to bootlegs yet).


Am I wrong?

[StoneTempleBrett]

Anyway, Corey Taylor has a great voice and I like his work with Stone Sour... I'd be okay with him fronting 'STP' if it weren't for the fact that he's the exact kind of macho asshole the band has been trying to separate themselves from since the very beginning.

That's a big thing. I don't want any of that macho crap touching STP. That's something huge that I have always liked about this band. It has such a unique vibe that comes through the music, you know that macho bullshit doesn't exist here... there is no tough guy fuck-ery here. I see enough of that every day to where I need STP to come through for me at the end of a day and get me back to that "real" and "pure" place their work takes me to.

I really almost want this search stuff to just stop. No matter what happens half of us are probably going to be upset about who takes the singing duties for STP, for one reason or another. There is one helluva legacy in place as it stands right now. I love the legacy "My favorite" band has laid out over the last 20+ years. I don't want anything to tarnish the vibe this band has.

Regardless to the band's philosophy, don't you think that Scott behaved himself as a tough guy during, at least, Core era?
I'm listening to bootlegs right now, and every time he is tough and rough.
He often says things like "fuck", "fuck in the ass" or even "suck my dick", etc.
I'm not sure that this is a macho behavior, but at least Scott was a tough guy in Core era (not sure about Purple yet, haven't listen yet).


Am I wrong?

Scott wore a dress during one of STP's first major television performances in 1993 during Sex Type Thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_K3kAnZGrk

[Alex]

Yep, I know that, and I know that he also did it on "The Word".
But what does it mean?

[seattlesound]

Anyway, Corey Taylor has a great voice and I like his work with Stone Sour... I'd be okay with him fronting 'STP' if it weren't for the fact that he's the exact kind of macho asshole the band has been trying to separate themselves from since the very beginning.

That's a big thing. I don't want any of that macho crap touching STP. That's something huge that I have always liked about this band. It has such a unique vibe that comes through the music, you know that macho bullshit doesn't exist here... there is no tough guy fuck-ery here. I see enough of that every day to where I need STP to come through for me at the end of a day and get me back to that "real" and "pure" place their work takes me to.

I really almost want this search stuff to just stop. No matter what happens half of us are probably going to be upset about who takes the singing duties for STP, for one reason or another. There is one helluva legacy in place as it stands right now. I love the legacy "My favorite" band has laid out over the last 20+ years. I don't want anything to tarnish the vibe this band has.

Regardless to the band's philosophy, don't you think that Scott behaved himself as a tough guy during, at least, Core era?
I'm listening to bootlegs right now, and every time he is tough and rough.
He often says things like "fuck", "fuck in the ass" or even "suck my dick", etc.
And speaking about album too - we can hear the toughness, roughness all over "Core", it was just the vibe of his voice.
I'm not sure whether it is a macho behavior, but at least Scott was a tough guy in Core era (not sure about Purple yet, haven't listen closely to bootlegs yet).


Am I wrong?

Alex, I wouldn't say this is wrong... I can see where you are coming from in this. I don't think the language would mean too much about someone trying to be macho... There are so many ways to use profanity and you could be coming from multiple places angry or happy and everything in between.

The one thing from the core era which would immediately come to mind is the sex type thing video, where Scott is playing up the part of a "macho fuck", but as pointed out by Brett already here... Scott tried on multiple occasions during the core era to express to the fans that he put himself into the place of a guy that acts that way and uses women as objects to take advantage of them, ect... So Scott tried to clear up people's misunderstanding of that particular song.

i guess when I look at the overall image of this band... By leaps and bounds it's a non macho look that this band has. But I could see where a few of the earlier things could come off that way.

[Pingfah]

Scott was masculine and feminine simultaneously. He was just a guy who didn't believe in gender stereotypes, and mocked them whenever he got the chance.

STT is definitely not a song written by a mindless macho guy.

[Davidssimpson2012]

Scott was masculine and feminine simultaneously. He was just a guy who didn't believe in gender stereotypes, and mocked them whenever he got the chance.

STT is definitely not a song written by a mindless macho guy.

Hi guys - I recorded a version of this for the audition process. I believe the time to be considered has passed, but since you're discussing the song, I suppose it's ok to post it. Hope you dig it !  https://youtu.be/kA2tUnGYQfU