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Scott Weiland in Esquire...
« on: December 06, 2015, 01:29:10 AM »

I read this almost 10 years ago... They just re-posted it, but its much more poignant now.


http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/music/news/a40198/scott-weiland-interview/

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Re: Scott Weiland in Esquire...
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2015, 01:52:00 AM »

I read this almost 10 years ago... They just re-posted it, but its much more poignant now.


http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/music/news/a40198/scott-weiland-interview/

Wow, this hit me so hard...mostly knowing what would happen a couple of years later...I'm so sorry that he couldn't stay on that path... :(
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Re: Scott Weiland in Esquire...
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2015, 06:49:28 PM »
What a great article. He's so coherent, so sharp, so smart. What's really striking though is the difference in his appearance. He was 37 when this article was written, and looks great. Contrast that to his appearance before he died, It looked like he aged 30 years in between, not 11.

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Re: Scott Weiland in Esquire...
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2015, 07:04:16 PM »
In the last few years, he aged an incredible lot.
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Re: Scott Weiland in Esquire...
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2015, 10:34:24 PM »
I remeber every word of this article - it had left such an impression on me.  But the one thing I remember writing about this article was the way he talks about the drugs and the first times and the misdemeanors is  almost as if he's proud of it. There isn't a sense of closure there, it's obvious that he's just playing at family life for a couple of years, before he's going to go back to his REAL love, coke and heroin.  Even his love affair with Mary - it's her willingness to shoot heroin that is what impresses him into becoming obsessed with her.
It's sad. I think that the music we all worship was never a priority in his life. It was a party lifestyle, it was fun, it was a paycheck to buy more drugs. Well, fuck, hindsight is a painful thing. That paycheck became so scarce in these final years due to everything that he was so proud of in the article.
I want to slow clap him while saying "well fucking done Scott - how cool you were holed up with Courtney, so mature getting so high that you saw fucking monsters coming at you from the walls, so proud of all your parties and near death experiences - you know where that all got you? A cold tour bus in Bloomington, and 2 fans waiting outside for you after your bar show at a fucking music festival".  But I can't because he's dead.
I just got angry at 2005 Scott for not wanting to get clean 😔
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Re: Scott Weiland in Esquire...
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2015, 10:35:15 PM »
I remeber every word of this article - it had left such an impression on me.  But the one thing I remember writing about this article was the way he talks about the drugs and the first times and the misdemeanors is  almost as if he's proud of it. There isn't a sense of closure there, it's obvious that he's just playing at family life for a couple of years, before he's going to go back to his REAL love, coke and heroin.  Even his love affair with Mary - it's her willingness to shoot heroin that is what impresses him into becoming obsessed with her.
It's sad. I think that the music we all worship was never a priority in his life. It was a party lifestyle, it was fun, it was a paycheck to buy more drugs. Well, fuck, hindsight is a painful thing. That paycheck became so scarce in these final years due to everything that he was so proud of in the article.
I want to slow clap him while saying "well fucking done Scott - how cool you were holed up with Courtney, so mature getting so high that you saw fucking monsters coming at you from the walls, so proud of all your parties and near death experiences - you know where that all got you? A cold tour bus in Bloomington, and 2 fans waiting outside for you after your bar show at a fucking music festival".  But I can't because he's dead.
I just got angry at 2005 Scott for not wanting to get clean 😔

Scott later said he did not think this article captured his voice at all.  It's why he said he wrote his book.


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Re: Scott Weiland in Esquire...
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2015, 10:38:46 PM »
And when I say music was not his priority, I don't mean he didn't care about it, I mean the music was just THERE and he was just good at it. But making the music and performing in front of people was never enough on it's own to motivate Scott - it was never enough. If it had been enough, he would have been able to stay healthy after STP reunion. Damn it.
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Re: Scott Weiland in Esquire...
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2015, 10:40:13 PM »
I remeber every word of this article - it had left such an impression on me.  But the one thing I remember writing about this article was the way he talks about the drugs and the first times and the misdemeanors is  almost as if he's proud of it. There isn't a sense of closure there, it's obvious that he's just playing at family life for a couple of years, before he's going to go back to his REAL love, coke and heroin.  Even his love affair with Mary - it's her willingness to shoot heroin that is what impresses him into becoming obsessed with her.
It's sad. I think that the music we all worship was never a priority in his life. It was a party lifestyle, it was fun, it was a paycheck to buy more drugs. Well, fuck, hindsight is a painful thing. That paycheck became so scarce in these final years due to everything that he was so proud of in the article.
I want to slow clap him while saying "well fucking done Scott - how cool you were holed up with Courtney, so mature getting so high that you saw fucking monsters coming at you from the walls, so proud of all your parties and near death experiences - you know where that all got you? A cold tour bus in Bloomington, and 2 fans waiting outside for you after your bar show at a fucking music festival".  But I can't because he's dead.
I just got angry at 2005 Scott for not wanting to get clean 😔

Scott later said he did not think this article captured his voice at all.  It's why he said he wrote his book.

I know but I think what he meant was "i think i was too honest and excited in this article and it may be misunderstood, so let me try to give you guys the watered down politically correct version in my book"
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Re: Scott Weiland in Esquire...
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2016, 06:54:51 PM »
I just read this again for the first time since his passing - for the first time in years. Definitely hits you differently.
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Re: Scott Weiland in Esquire...
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2016, 08:06:36 PM »
If it is true that Mary moved away, I have this feeling that Scott sort of used that as an excuse to sort of let himself be the person he describes having been in this. I truly believe that deep down he didn't want to be an absentee dad, and I think Mary's letter probably leaves a few details out, and maybe he even thought, 'This is who I am, maybe they are better off without me,' as sort of a misguided act of what he fooled himself into thinking was nobility.


Either way, the way he describes his kids here is just a complete 180 from Mary's letter. I can't wrap my head around it.

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Re: Scott Weiland in Esquire...
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2016, 08:27:26 PM »
I'd forgotten some facts from this piece. One of which that she filed for divorce in Sept. 2002. I suppose they reconciled because they didn't actually split until after VR, right?
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Re: Scott Weiland in Esquire...
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2016, 08:37:59 PM »
Either way, the way he describes his kids here is just a complete 180 from Mary's letter. I can't wrap my head around it.

Remember that this piece is 10 years old, and Mary's letter was about the last few years after he remarried... The entire point of Mary's piece was that he made a 180° change in his presence in his children's lives.
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Re: Scott Weiland in Esquire...
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2016, 08:41:31 PM »

Either way, the way he describes his kids here is just a complete 180 from Mary's letter. I can't wrap my head around it.


Remember that this piece is 10 years old, and Mary's letter was about the last few years after he remarried... The entire point of Mary's piece was that he made a 180° change in his presence in his children's lives.

Here's the kicker -

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I would die for them. But I could not get clean for them.

In the end, it was his addiction that won out and ultimately defined him.
When STP had a cookout after filming the video for the Core single "Plush," Weiland made jerk chicken that was "spectacular," Dean raves.

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Re: Scott Weiland in Esquire...
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2016, 08:56:18 PM »
When they're old enough to fully comprehend, I wonder how this piece will read to them, if they ever go there.
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Re: Scott Weiland in Esquire...
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2016, 09:16:45 PM »
hopefully they will understand how dangerous drugs are.