The Future Of STP?

[StoneTempleBrett]

It's never been confirmed that they recorded other tracks with All In The Suit That You Wear.  Literally the only confirmed unreleased song title from 1992-2002 I've seen is The Way She Moves.  These cover songs discussed as well could be nice releases.

I would guess though that there have to be demos from the self-titled session, since both Scott and Eric said 18 songs were written for that record.  Obviously studio versions weren't recorded or they'd have been on deluxe editions, but to hear those demos would be amazing.

[Sklashboombash]

It's very likely they have a whole disc of material. SLDD was recorded with the intention of a double album, plus two or three extra tracks recorded in the same session as All in the Suit, and at least one song off No. 4 that's never been released or leaked.

I think we didn't see more than All in the Suit in Thank You because the band was breaking up at the time, and a whole lot of new material being released as they broke up would have been contradictory. I also recall the DeLeo's talking a lot back in the day about maintaining 'mystique' by keeping stuff in the vault. Hopefully they'll reconsider that position after the events of the last few years.

As far as reissues, I just don't imagine Atlantic is interested in reissuing more than Core and Purple, or even just more than Core possibly. Tiny Music-SLDD material just doesn't get played on the radio that often... I don't imagine they'd get many returns on a reissue for those albums as they only appeal to more die hard STP fans, where as Core and Purple have much more mass appeal.

At least with a collection of Outtakes, the DeLeos would be able to release it independently. I'm not saying we're likely to see them do that, but I think we're more likely to see that then a reissue of SLDD.

You make a valid point about reissuing the later albums. But didn't No. 4 sell decently too? If not individual album reissues, maybe a box-set then? Although the individual releases can be nicely packaged.

As for the extra tracks you speak of, are they the "Samba Nova", "About a Fool", "You Can't Drive Me Away"? Because those did make it out. "Heed the Water Whisperer", I don't believe made an official release. But "Beautiful Day" (non-STP) version was on HiG.

Is there really a "Way She Moves" from STP?
Are we missing more from that era?

[Sklashboombash]

Obviously studio versions weren't recorded or they'd have been on deluxe editions, but to hear those demos would be amazing.

Did Scott typically sing on demos? Or were they instrumental just prior to Scott working his magic?

[Blue]

It's very likely they have a whole disc of material. SLDD was recorded with the intention of a double album, plus two or three extra tracks recorded in the same session as All in the Suit, and at least one song off No. 4 that's never been released or leaked.

I think we didn't see more than All in the Suit in Thank You because the band was breaking up at the time, and a whole lot of new material being released as they broke up would have been contradictory. I also recall the DeLeo's talking a lot back in the day about maintaining 'mystique' by keeping stuff in the vault. Hopefully they'll reconsider that position after the events of the last few years.

As far as reissues, I just don't imagine Atlantic is interested in reissuing more than Core and Purple, or even just more than Core possibly. Tiny Music-SLDD material just doesn't get played on the radio that often... I don't imagine they'd get many returns on a reissue for those albums as they only appeal to more die hard STP fans, where as Core and Purple have much more mass appeal.

At least with a collection of Outtakes, the DeLeos would be able to release it independently. I'm not saying we're likely to see them do that, but I think we're more likely to see that then a reissue of SLDD.

You make a valid point about reissuing the later albums. But didn't No. 4 sell decently too? If not individual album reissues, maybe a box-set then? Although the individual releases can be nicely packaged.

As for the extra tracks you speak of, are they the "Samba Nova", "About a Fool", "You Can't Drive Me Away"? Because those did make it out. "Heed the Water Whisperer", I don't believe made an official release. But "Beautiful Day" (non-STP) version was on HiG.

Is there really a "Way She Moves" from STP?
Are we missing more from that era?

About A Fool, Samba Nova and You Can't Drive Me Away were from the SLDD sessions, but I'm pretty sure there is a bit more since that was supposed to be a double album. Heed the Water Whisperer and Beautiful Day were No. 4 sessions, the former we've only heard in a leak, and The Way She Moves was another No. 4 track that has never been released or leaked.

I guess we'll never know what they do or don't have in their vault until either they release it or some asks them about it... It's entirely possible these other tracks are incomplete, or have been reworked into songs for later albums.

Also regarding reissues, yes Tiny Music and No. 4 sold well, and even SLDD to a degree, but they aren't iconic albums to the general public. I think it's more likely they'll just reissue the first two records, or maybe do some sort of collectors set of the original five album editions.

[StoneTempleBrett]

Obviously studio versions weren't recorded or they'd have been on deluxe editions, but to hear those demos would be amazing.

Did Scott typically sing on demos? Or were they instrumental just prior to Scott working his magic?

I wouldn't know that, but Eric had mentioned leftover songs in 2011 potentially being worked up for the 7th album that never happened, and that corroborates with Scott's statement in 2009 that 18 songs had been written for the album.  I would hope (guess) that Scott had melodies/lyrics for at least a few of the 6 instrumentals that didn't make the album, but I doubt full studio versions were recorded or somebody would have talked about them by now.

[CagedTiger]

I made my own STP rarities collection about 5 years ago and called it 'Revolution', I even made covers for it and it sits with my other STP CD's and it's also on my Ipod...

The tracklist I went with was -

1. Samba Nova
2. About A Fool
3. Learning To Drive (STP No.4 Outtake)
4. You Can't Drive Me Away
5. Heed The Water Whisperer
6. All In The Suit That You Wear
7. Dancing Days
8. Revolution
9. Break On Through (To The Other Side)
10. Andy Warhol
11. Sex Type Thing (Swing Type Version)
12. Plush (Acoustic Version)

Bonus Tracks
13. Creep (Video Version)
14. Hello It's Late (Video Version)

At the very least Atlantic could put something similar to this out, although I play my mix quite a bit I would still obviously pay for an official collection like this as I'm sure most STP fans would, hopefully with a few unheard/unreleased songs too.

[The Legacy]

Obviously studio versions weren't recorded or they'd have been on deluxe editions, but to hear those demos would be amazing.

Did Scott typically sing on demos? Or were they instrumental just prior to Scott working his magic?

I wouldn't know that, but Eric had mentioned leftover songs in 2011 potentially being worked up for the 7th album that never happened, and that corroborates with Scott's statement in 2009 that 18 songs had been written for the album.  I would hope (guess) that Scott had melodies/lyrics for at least a few of the 6 instrumentals that didn't make the album, but I doubt full studio versions were recorded or somebody would have talked about them by now.

I feel like there might be full versions of a few because I remember dean saying that Scott thought peacoat shouldn't make the cut which made me think it would be in favor of another one not just to make it an 11 song album, I could be wrong but that's the impression I got

[CagedTiger]

Obviously studio versions weren't recorded or they'd have been on deluxe editions, but to hear those demos would be amazing.

Did Scott typically sing on demos? Or were they instrumental just prior to Scott working his magic?

I wouldn't know that, but Eric had mentioned leftover songs in 2011 potentially being worked up for the 7th album that never happened, and that corroborates with Scott's statement in 2009 that 18 songs had been written for the album.  I would hope (guess) that Scott had melodies/lyrics for at least a few of the 6 instrumentals that didn't make the album, but I doubt full studio versions were recorded or somebody would have talked about them by now.

I feel like there might be full versions of a few because I remember dean saying that Scott thought peacoat shouldn't make the cut which made me think it would be in favor of another one not just to make it an 11 song album, I could be wrong but that's the impression I got

Never knew about Scott saying that (regarding Peacoat) I actually think that's one of the better songs from that album... I always got the feeling 'First Kiss On Mars' was Scott's favourite from S/T, he played it live at a few solo shows from what I recall. That's my favourite from the album too. Sorry for going off topic there!

On topic - I've got a feeling there won't be a great deal of unreleased STP in the vaults but I do hope I'm wrong, I think it'll be note likely we get a covers/rarities disc similar to the one I listed above with possibly 1 or 2 unheard songs/demo's.
SW on the other hand I think there will be quite a lot, solo and with The Wondergirls, Big Blue Missile etc.

[Sklashboombash]

A Core reissue can be accompanied by the MJY demos, cleaned up. The Unplugged video.

Purple, maybe the 1994 Live Purple full concert. Andy Warhol, Dancing Days, KISS cover.

Tiny Music, I run into trouble here. I'm sure there's some footage, I don't know if there are any demos, with Talk Show being worked on simultaneously.

No. 4... The couple leftovers mentioned above, Revolution, Storytellers or HOB show, Break On Thru

SLDD, the making of, coffee table book, leftover tracks listed above.

S/T, I really don't know what exists here and chances are there's not much studio footage cuz they worked separately. Hopefully there are some songs in the vault here.

[Pingfah]

Also regarding reissues, yes Tiny Music and No. 4 sold well, and even SLDD to a degree, but they aren't iconic albums to the general public. I think it's more likely they'll just reissue the first two records, or maybe do some sort of collectors set of the original five album editions.

Record companies reissue LPs that sold a hell of a lot less than any of the STP albums all the time. Just because they weren't all multi-platinum hits doesn't necessarily mean there's no market for Atlantic to re-release them.

I'm also expecting a MusiconVinyl issue of 12 Bar Blues at some point. That's right up their alley.

[Aaron]

I'm also expecting a MusiconVinyl issue of 12 Bar Blues at some point. That's right up their alley.

Fingers crossed for that.  That would be amazing.

[Jimil]

Personally, I'd like to see the boys play five or six dates across the county without a singer and let the fans sing the songs along with them. Maybe with an empty mic and a spotlight on it.


A dream? Most likely but I think it would be a nice tribute to their lifelong friend.

[Sklashboombash]

I wonder if there are any plans being made behind the scenes or is everything too fresh right now.

[EyesOfDisarray]

I'd like to see one epic tribute concert with Rob, Dean, Eric, and a different guest singer for each song, recorded and released as a live album and DVD/blu-ray of it (like Zeppelin did with their final show).

[Blue]

I'd like to see one epic tribute concert with Rob, Dean, Eric, and a different guest singer for each song, recorded and released as a live album and DVD/blu-ray of it (like Zeppelin did with their final show).

I'd just like to see them release the 1999 Vegas show on Blu-ray. So far as I can tell it's recorded on film, rather than video tape, and is therefore one of very few HD quality recordings of the band from the original run... The only other one I believe is the  1994 Worcester show. Plus I think it already has full audio mixed by Brendan O'Brien.

As things stand, the only official concert video of Scott available right now is the Chicago show. Far from Scott at his best. I think the best tribute they could give would be to release one of the greatest performances of the man's life in HD quality.