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Re: Scott Weiland found Dead
« Reply #300 on: December 10, 2015, 01:57:03 AM »
Let's see what the coroner's report says.

About how long does it usually take?
In the TMZ article it said 4-8 weeks. It took a long time for Jeremy's report.

Not splitting hairs - but:

They are waiting for the toxicology report. The coroner, I assume, has long been finished with the autopsy and is now awaiting results from whatever body parts/fluids they test. We already know how he died - a massive heart attack. Now we need to wait to see what caused it - and I don't think that's going to be very surprising.

I think 6-8 weeks is normal turnaround time for something like that. It may possibly be quicker than that.
i bet since Weiland is a super star they say exactly what happened.
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Re: Scott Weiland found Dead
« Reply #301 on: December 10, 2015, 02:12:47 AM »
Let's see what the coroner's report says.

About how long does it usually take?
In the TMZ article it said 4-8 weeks. It took a long time for Jeremy's report.

Not splitting hairs - but:

They are waiting for the toxicology report. The coroner, I assume, has long been finished with the autopsy and is now awaiting results from whatever body parts/fluids they test. We already know how he died - a massive heart attack. Now we need to wait to see what caused it - and I don't think that's going to be very surprising.

I think 6-8 weeks is normal turnaround time for something like that. It may possibly be quicker than that.
i bet since Weiland is a super star they say exactly what happened.

Regardless of what information is or isn't officially released, a leak is inevitable. There is clearly already someone involved leaking info to TMZ.

But at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter what's in the report. Either he OD'd on cocaine, or on a cocktail of presciption meds and alcohol, or if by some miracle he didn't OD then he died of heart failure due to years of intense substance abuse.

Anyway, we all know how this ended... It's all results of the same problem.
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Re: Scott Weiland found Dead
« Reply #302 on: December 10, 2015, 03:31:31 AM »
Let's see what the coroner's report says.

About how long does it usually take?
In the TMZ article it said 4-8 weeks. It took a long time for Jeremy's report.

Not splitting hairs - but:

They are waiting for the toxicology report. The coroner, I assume, has long been finished with the autopsy and is now awaiting results from whatever body parts/fluids they test. We already know how he died - a massive heart attack. Now we need to wait to see what caused it - and I don't think that's going to be very surprising.

I think 6-8 weeks is normal turnaround time for something like that. It may possibly be quicker than that.
i bet since Weiland is a super star they say exactly what happened.

Regardless of what information is or isn't officially released, a leak is inevitable. There is clearly already someone involved leaking info to TMZ.

But at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter what's in the report. Either he OD'd on cocaine, or on a cocktail of presciption meds and alcohol, or if by some miracle he didn't OD then he died of heart failure due to years of intense substance abuse.

Anyway, we all know how this ended... It's all results of the same problem.


Thank you for this Blue. It does not matter nor should it. The fact is he is no longer with us. It hurts to say and even more so to realize but it is the truth.

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Re: Scott Weiland found Dead
« Reply #303 on: December 10, 2015, 04:20:39 AM »
It somewhat matters to me how he died because like Blue said if for some small miracle that he passed away from natural causes just caused from years of abuse then I can sleep easier knowing that caused it compared to an OD but odds are definitely against that.
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Re: Scott Weiland found Dead
« Reply #304 on: December 10, 2015, 04:34:17 AM »
In light of all the Mary-bashing that's some people feel is necessary, let's remember better days:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDJDleU7kwQ


Absolutely beautiful performance IMO

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« Reply #305 on: December 10, 2015, 04:36:02 AM »
Fuck TMZ.

But, a while back I told you guys Scott wasn't doing heroin but that he was taking prescription pills (prescribed or not I don't know) and Quaaludes. I got laughed at. They found all this other stuff, including Buprenorphine. We all also know he was an alcoholic. Taking the amount of pills he was for various reasons, for his health and/or pleasure plus the drinking, it was only a matter of time. The Viagra I'd guess was there because his wife was there the week before, right? So that makes sense...

Nobody has to wait for toxicology results to know that the guy didn't just have a heart attack. I mean, he did. That's what happened. His heart stopped. The reason for it was all the pills he was taking, and the booze he was drinking.

What we don't know is whether or not he was doing coke and that'll be confirmed in the toxicology. All of you should be prepared to read/hear that he was doing coke.

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter. If I were to have a guess based on all the other stuff that's come out the last week with friends fearing relapse, is that Scott did some coke and overdid it and that stopped his heart. He had been drinking and popping pills for years and I don't think coke was involved for much of that time.

As others have said, he should have never, ever been on the road in this condition...

I'm still pretty shocked, and sad.
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Re: Scott Weiland found Dead
« Reply #306 on: December 10, 2015, 04:46:18 AM »
In light of all the Mary-bashing that's some people feel is necessary, let's remember better days:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDJDleU7kwQ
 

Beautiful! Thank you for sharing.

Absolutely beautiful performance IMO
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« Reply #307 on: December 10, 2015, 05:07:51 AM »
It somewhat matters to me how he died because like Blue said if for some small miracle that he passed away from natural causes just caused from years of abuse then I can sleep easier knowing that caused it compared to an OD but odds are definitely against that.

I'm sorry, but there's no way it was 'natural causes'. At the very least, he died because all of the drugs he's used over the years damaged his body so bad.

So I'm personally not sleeping better any way it turns out. No matter how it ended, he could have avoided it by making better choices. Heart failure beause he hasn't taken care of his body, especially in the last few years, is no better to me than an OD.
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Re: Scott Weiland found Dead
« Reply #308 on: December 10, 2015, 05:10:15 AM »
It somewhat matters to me how he died because like Blue said if for some small miracle that he passed away from natural causes just caused from years of abuse then I can sleep easier knowing that caused it compared to an OD but odds are definitely against that.

It more than likely wasn't a drug overdose. Just like how Jeremy's death wasn't a drug overdose. Most of the drugs found on the bus were respiratory depressants. Combined with alcohol, they have a very high potential to cause problems, even in healthy people.

Somebody with a weakened heart from years of drug and alcohol abuse, it's only a matter of time before their heart gives out.... Especially when they're chronically consuming some sort of combination of them....

Good possibility there will be cocaine in his system, but still, very unlikely it was an overdose he died from.

Either way, I hope the dude is resting in peace. Still have to almost pinch myself when I really think of the fact Scott Weiland is dead....
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Re: Scott Weiland found Dead
« Reply #309 on: December 10, 2015, 05:13:58 AM »
From Wikipedia:

"Combined drug intoxication (CDI), also known as multiple drug intake (MDI) or lethalpolydrug/polypharmacy intoxication, is anunnatural cause of human death. CDI is often confused with drug overdose, but it is a completely different phenomenon. It is distinct in that it is due to the simultaneous use of multiple drugs, whether the drugs areprescription, over-the-counter, recreational, or some other combination. Alcohol can exacerbate the symptoms and may directly contribute to increased severity of symptoms. The reasons for toxicity vary depending on the mixture of drugs. Usually, most victims die after using two or more drugs in combination that suppress breathing, and the low bloodoxygen level causes brain death."


I'm guessing the cause of death will be something along the lines of "heart attack caused by multiple drug intoxication"
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Re: Scott Weiland found Dead
« Reply #310 on: December 10, 2015, 05:32:32 AM »
It somewhat matters to me how he died because like Blue said if for some small miracle that he passed away from natural causes just caused from years of abuse then I can sleep easier knowing that caused it compared to an OD but odds are definitely against that.

I'm sorry, but there's no way it was 'natural causes'. At the very least, he died because all of the drugs he's used over the years damaged his body so bad.


thats what I meant. Obviously when you're 48 and pass on its not gonna be natural causes.
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Re: Scott Weiland found Dead
« Reply #311 on: December 10, 2015, 05:33:46 AM »
The way I understand it, a heart attack is when a coronary artery is blocked and prevents blood from entering the heart, and that area of the heart begins to die.

Cardiac arrest is when the hearts electrical impulses go crazy and since it can't figure itself out, it just suddenly stops beating.

If it was truly cardiac arrest, it's possible his life could have been saved had someone been around and they had known CPR and just as importantly had a defibrillator on the bus. Often times you can shock the heart and it resets itself and begins to pump regularly.

In fact, it seems like having a defibrillator on a tour bus like that would be a good idea in general. I mean, it's already super expensive. And you are seeing them all around now.

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Re: Scott Weiland found Dead
« Reply #312 on: December 10, 2015, 08:01:55 AM »
 He stated that they changed prescription meds which means depending on how recent they were changed & what he was doing at the time of the change, it could have been as simple as an adverse reaction to the new medication that caused heart failure.  For example, ppl on blood thinners have to be careful w/ taking certain herbal products and such cuz one cut could bleed them out.
The way I understand it, a heart attack is when a coronary artery is blocked and prevents blood from entering the heart, and that area of the heart begins to die.

Cardiac arrest is when the hearts electrical impulses go crazy and since it can't figure itself out, it just suddenly stops beating.

If it was truly cardiac arrest, it's possible his life could have been saved had someone been around and they had known CPR and just as importantly had a defibrillator on the bus. Often times you can shock the heart and it resets itself and begins to pump regularly.

In fact, it seems like having a defibrillator on a tour bus like that would be a good idea in general. I mean, it's already super expensive. And you are seeing them all around now.

yea. I think you're right.  U have time if they are in Cardiac Arrest, but w/ Him, time is so important.  I think it's like 3 mins before your brain starts to die & his brain was already questionable so you would have to be so fast & hope he wakes up normal w/out brain damage.  Poor guy.  I always rooted for him.
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« Reply #313 on: December 10, 2015, 05:30:34 PM »
Its upsetting knowing that scott couldn't overcome this hurdle in his life. While his ex band mates from VR are probably planning a GnR tour.  :(
That should have been and could have been scott with either STP or VR ..... If only.

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Re: Scott Weiland found Dead
« Reply #314 on: December 10, 2015, 07:47:27 PM »
Nobody could have saved him. Nobody was on the bus at the time of his sudden cardiac arrest. They found him after he was already gone and by the time an attempt was made to begin CPR, it was clear it was too late.
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