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Poll: Richard Patrick in STP?
« on: November 10, 2015, 08:31:28 PM »
Hate to dogpile on the 'new singer' polls, but in my defense this one ISN'T a joke poll!


So I think most everyone is now in agreement that it's finally time for STP to call it quits. For me personally, my one hope in this whole situation is that maybe the DeLeos could put the new material toward a new AoA album with Kretz replacing Luzier. With the talk of them auditioning lead singers, it looks like that may not be a possibility. But then I got to thinking, if they feel they HAVE to go on STP, they could do a lot worse than Richard Patrick.


For one thing, he's got good range and a history of covering STP well. With AoA he sang Vasoline, a tuned up acoustic version of ILS, an amazing version of Piece of Pie, and sang probably the best version of Big Bang Baby since the Tiny Music tour. He's probably got the range to cover most of STP's catalog. And let's remember that he sung ABOVE is usual range in AoA to avoid comparisons to Scott.


At the same time, he definitely has his own singing style and doesn't sounds anything like Scott, which was one of Chester's detractors bigger peaves, that he sounded too much like Scott.


He's also a guitar player, which opens up the catalog like it did with Chester. Unlike Chester, he is a very strong songwriter and can contribute much more to the songwriting process than Chester or even Scott. I personally think AoA was the best music to come out of anyone in the STP camp since SLDD. Stronger than  High Rise, than S/T, than VR, and either of Weiland's solo albums. If they can do another album like that, I wouldn't exactly mind it being under the STP title.


Because of AoA, he's already part of the 'family' as a previous collaborator. And unlike LP, Filter has a huge cross over with STP. And as far as commitments to Filter, Richard is in much more control of the band than Chester is of LP. He could conceivable schedule Filter's upcoming tours so that he has time to work with STP without burning out.


I'm not saying I want STP to go on particularly. But if STP HAS to go on, this could be a way to get a silver lining out of it.So what do y'all think?
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Re: Poll: Richard Patrick in STP?
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2015, 08:42:45 PM »
I wholeheartedly agree. It is without a doubt, in my humble opinion that the Army of Anyone record is the best thing the DeLeo's did post-2001. Richard Patrick could do it justice, without it seeming like a retread, and I'm more than sure he'd push the band into breaking new ground as a creative entity, rather than just have them retread to the classics.

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Re: Poll: Richard Patrick in STP?
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2015, 08:43:42 PM »
Richard's voice is way too different from Scott's, and they've already been down that path with him, so no way it'll happen.


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Re: Poll: Richard Patrick in STP?
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2015, 08:51:46 PM »
Hmmm I don't know what to vote for here... I would LOVE another Army of Anyone album with Richard Patrick singing but I would like it to be named as such and not under the STP banner. Its a separate project. They could do STP and Filter covers during their shows like they used to anyway. The STP name needs to be given a rest for now or possibly given up for good if they can't get a healthy Scott Weiland to front it... All these different versions of the band are just going to leave a stain on the STP name and legacy.
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Re: Poll: Richard Patrick in STP?
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2015, 08:54:33 PM »
Dick Pat didn't really sound good singing the STP stuff.


Not a huge fan of the Army Of Anyone, but I would definitely check out another album by then. Haven't really been impressed by Patrick's material since Filter's The Amalgamut....
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Re: Poll: Richard Patrick in STP?
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2015, 09:08:27 PM »
Hmmm I don't know what to vote for here... I would LOVE another Army of Anyone album with Richard Patrick singing but I would like it to be named as such and not under the STP banner. Its a separate project. They could do STP and Filter covers during their shows like they used to anyway. The STP name needs to be given a rest for now or possibly given up for good if they can't get a healthy Scott Weiland to front it... All these different versions of the band are just going to leave a stain on the STP name and legacy.

I don't think the legacy can ever be stained anymore than the last 2 1/2 years of the reunion.

But yeah, I agree that I'd be more into the project being AoA, but with notion that the DeLeos really want to go on with a new singer this is the only way I can imagine it not being just another round of greatest hits tours. Besides, either way it's 3/4 of the original band. I guess they might as well go with the bigger name, get the attention that AoA failed to garner.
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Re: Poll: Richard Patrick in STP?
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2015, 09:15:16 PM »
I love this place. But we do live in on an island sometimes. Let me preface by saying I enjoyed the AoA album, but they put that out and nobody cared. I know WE cared, but I mean, they weren't even filling the small venues they were playing in on some dates. I know it was a new band, but on the strength of the STP & Filter association alone, I would have expected more oomph.

So with that said (and with Filter about to put out a new record), it's unlikely that we'd get a second AoA album, let alone have him be the replacement in STP. Not to mention that Richard was pretty public urging fans to accept Chester and not give Chester a hard time like they did to him in AoA. Filter is his bread winner, and not a big bread winner at that. I can't see him subjecting himself to that again. Much less as STP's frontman.
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Re: Poll: Richard Patrick in STP?
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2015, 09:18:50 PM »
On a slightly related topic. You know where Richard shined in a non-Filter situation? When he hooked up with Wes Borland, Danny Lohner and Josh Freese as "The Damning Well" for the one-off song on the Underworld soundtrack.
https://youtu.be/UGoIpdZQkI0
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Re: Poll: Richard Patrick in STP?
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2015, 09:47:40 PM »
Richard had said he's willing to do AoA again, but I don't think he'd be up for doing STP. He's expressed disappointment that the Deleos bailed on AoA, after he had put Filter on hold and made AoA his focus. I think he probably feels a little burned by that. He would do AoA but probably be more guarded about his commitment level this time, and that's for a band where he has been the only singer and wrote all the vocals (and some of the music).

STP is another animal, as it requires him singing Scott's vocals most of the time. Unlike Chester, Richard is not an STP fanboy from a younger generation who dreamed of fronting the band; he's their contemporary... which is why I like him working with the Deleos. But I don't think he'd be willing to become the replacement singer in STP.
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Re: Poll: Richard Patrick in STP?
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2015, 09:59:51 PM »
He's expressed disappointment that the Deleos bailed on AoA, after he had put Filter on hold and made AoA his focus. I think he probably feels a little burned by that.

Is that right? I didn't know that. I do remember him saying that he'd do it again sometime.
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Re: Poll: Richard Patrick in STP?
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2015, 10:30:16 PM »
Yeah iirc, it was during an interview with Filter after he had reformed them. I don't have time to look it up now, but maybe someone else can find it. I don't think there's any bad blood between them or anything; my impression was just that Richard was disappointed because he was really into AoA.

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Re: Poll: Richard Patrick in STP?
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2015, 10:42:04 PM »
Yeah iirc, it was during an interview with Filter after he had reformed them. I don't have time to look it up now, but maybe someone else can find it. I don't think there's any bad blood between them or anything; my impression was just that Richard was disappointed because he was really into AoA.

I'll take your word for it. And yeah, no bad blood. They toured together again on Chester's first go 'round.
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Re: Poll: Richard Patrick in STP?
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2015, 10:44:24 PM »
On a slightly related topic. You know where Richard shined in a non-Filter situation? When he hooked up with Wes Borland, Danny Lohner and Josh Freese as "The Damning Well" for the one-off song on the Underworld soundtrack.
https://youtu.be/UGoIpdZQkI0

I love that song! I think it's right up there with Richard's best work. His vocals are so intense on this and people can say what they want about Limp Bizkit but there's no doubting Wes Borland can write a damn good riff!!
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Re: Poll: Richard Patrick in STP?
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2015, 11:00:11 PM »
On a slightly related topic. You know where Richard shined in a non-Filter situation? When he hooked up with Wes Borland, Danny Lohner and Josh Freese as "The Damning Well" for the one-off song on the Underworld soundtrack.
https://youtu.be/UGoIpdZQkI0

I love that song! I think it's right up there with Richard's best work. His vocals are so intense on this and people can say what they want about Limp Bizkit but there's no doubting Wes Borland can write a damn good riff!!

Yeah, I'm not even a Limp Bizkit fan, but this was a cool track. I think Wes gets a bum wrap because of the Limp Bizkit association.
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Re: Poll: Richard Patrick in STP?
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2015, 11:08:38 PM »
On a slightly related topic. You know where Richard shined in a non-Filter situation? When he hooked up with Wes Borland, Danny Lohner and Josh Freese as "The Damning Well" for the one-off song on the Underworld soundtrack.
https://youtu.be/UGoIpdZQkI0

I love that song! I think it's right up there with Richard's best work. His vocals are so intense on this and people can say what they want about Limp Bizkit but there's no doubting Wes Borland can write a damn good riff!!

Yeah, I'm not even a Limp Bizkit fan, but this was a cool track. I think Wes gets a bum wrap because of the Limp Bizkit association.

A talented musician getting a bum wrap for a Nu Metal association... Imagine that.
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