Fistfight...

[wickedgarden23]

Funny, you should mention Oasis.   I have a Guitar World mag from '98 where they interview Weiland, and he wasn't too kind to Oasis or 311 (and I don't hate either.)   About Oasis, he said, "I hate it when ppl don't acknowledge their influences.  Like goddman Oasis.  They're arrogant enough to say that they are better than the Beatles yet they claim that they aren't influenced by the Beatles.  I just find that appalling."  Oasis really seem to get on Weiland's nerves. "Of all the pop, Mod-influenced, soccer influenced, fashion, dance-element bands that have come out of England in the past ten years, they're the worst," he says.  "They try to hide the fact that they wish they were the Stone Roses so bad.   Peter DiStefano was telling me about when Oasis were on a tour with Porno for Pyros and they were bragging about how much drugs they do.  They were bragging about that in front of Porno for Pyros?! Come on!  Bragging about big lines?  I don't know about you, but I lined in High School.  Yet they go around with that swaggering image of 'Oh, we are a drug band, and we drink every day.' Man that is tired and boring."

just curious...what did scott say about 311? i had heard that stuff about oasis before.

[steven28174]

Got everyone a little riled up, heck we needed that in here!  STP news is few and far between aside from a new tour date here and there.  Of course good music is in the eye of the beholder, I included the disclaimer, "in my opinion".  In reply to the fellow that assumes I do not like rap music.  I very much enjoy Mos Def (haven't heard the new material), Jurassic 5, Dilated Peoples, NWA, Bone Thugs' and various others.  I admit my view of music is fairly narrow, I am very biased to the whole '91-'97 period of rock music, but I continue to add a new artist to my repertoire here and there.  I enjoy classic rock such as the Allmans', Beatles, Stones, etc as well.  I am very aware of music and the regular evolution, deevolution (I made that word up), and repetitions (era/genres/etc reintroduced to become popular again and fade again) that music weaves through as time passes.  I am an educated man and have taken my share of college music classes, as well as done my own research, as I have come to my personal opinions and tastes.  I do not enjoy country music, but if you do, that is great for you.  Also, yeah, I do take music seriously. I invest a lot of time trying to learn, discover and listen to music it is a regular part of my life, a constant.  However, we all have different tastes and it is pretty fantastic that there is so much music out there that we can all find something that can feel and at times, in a way, claim as our own.  Us ladies and gentleman here, have Stone Temple Pilots.  May they have a long and prosperous future.  And by the way guys, you all think I'm new here and my posting may be- but I have followed this site since the fall in popularity of usernet groups where I originally followed STP and collected the MJY demo as well as an interview I once received (maybe from one of you guys) that was on the radio with Rob and Dean introducing and premiering Tiny Music...  Anyway, I am rambling a bit, my head is a bit cloudy at the moment- but cheers to all and I don't mean to offend....too much  

-Steven

[Casual]

just curious...what did scott say about 311? i had heard that stuff about oasis before.

This is all from the May 1998 issue of Guitar World.  I found it when I ordered a bunch of old issues awhile back.  

When asked if he is worried that 12BB might be a little too far out for some STP fans...

"No," He replies. "I think ppl want something far out. The stuff that has any value to it at all right now, musically, is stuff that's more far out.  Like that song 'Smack my Bitch Up" that's pretty far out, you know.  And that's what ppl want.  People always want far out and they always want great melodies.  And I think the melodies I have on this record(12BB) are just pure pop. Not like the melodies these wannabe alternative bands like Matchbox 20 or 311 are singing. People are sick of hearing bands like that.  To tell you the truth, 90 percent of what's being called 'alternative rock' right now-or rock in general-is so fucking boring. I can't even call it bad.  It's just boring.  Pure mediocrity.  People want to hear music that is refreshing.  Some new sounds."

[loungefly611]

Wow, talk about sweeping generalizations.

There's probably a lot that listen to crap music but there's probably a lot that think you listen to crap music. I like Oasis but I'd venture to question your taste after hearing The Strokes thrown out there.

Thank you. You just saved me a lot of time.

[Marsbars]

man seriously age doesnt matter. we all like stp man and the different music we listen to is all in opinion or in the eye of the beholder. below is my opinoin.

the strokes have their own vibe. thats unique

creed nickelback is kinda irritating.

its not like stp and  pearljam  which are different.

Seriously i have to ask this what the hell does "grunge" mean.

[andrew]

Music elitists suck. Just because you don't like a certain band doesn't mean they suck.

And I noticed a lot of those people are into obscure shit that nobody really listens to and they think it's because people don't "get" their music.

Damn Skittles CRAZY CORES are good.

[VelvetLounngeFly]

well i hate to say it but i have stopped listening to any other bands since STP AIC and VR i really try to give them a chance i really really do believe me but i just can't stand it, there's nothing creative or cool or even dangerous about em i do dig some white stripes though and ppl tell me to give the foo fighters a chance i did and again i just couldn't get into it, it's nothing that i can really relate to like when VR's set me free came out i was like wow who was that?!? i had no idea it was them so i called the radio station and i couldn't believe and at the same time i was disappointed cuz it wasn't a group of new guys, rock n roll has really fallen off big time and i think the reason for that is because we have been fed crap for so long that these new kids just end up inspired by it, sad cuz the industry really knows they fucked up big time and they wanna look for their next rolling stones to make money out of  for yrs but they might not find em, STP and AIC is all i got left for now.

[StoneTempleBrett]

It seems like a lot of these new bands will put out a good first album, then a piece of shit second record.  That's why I can count on one hand the modern bands I like.

[StoneTempleBrett]

And I know a fuckload about rock n roll in general besides just being a big fan. Hell, I'm taking a HISTORY OF ROCK AND ROLL class right now in college.

I took a history of rock class last year and it was such bullshit.  The teacher had us read his own book and he completely skipped the 90's.  He was in love with Bon Jovi and jumped from Bon Jovi to Linkin Park.  Stupidest fucking class ever.

[Ivy]

Okay...now back on topic.

[wickedgarden23]

And I know a fuckload about rock n roll in general besides just being a big fan. Hell, I'm taking a HISTORY OF ROCK AND ROLL class right now in college.

I took a history of rock class last year and it was such bullshit.  The teacher had us read his own book and he completely skipped the 90's.  He was in love with Bon Jovi and jumped from Bon Jovi to Linkin Park.  Stupidest fucking class ever.

Well my history of rock and roll teacher is a world renowned percussionist...  
http://www.nscottrobinson.com/

ok yeah so back to Dean and Scott's fight in 2002

[DeathBedMotorcade]

I always wondered what caused that fight and what ever happened to the material for the album that was supposed to go back to their Core roots?

[DeathBedMotorcade]

just curious...what did scott say about 311? i had heard that stuff about oasis before.

This is all from the May 1998 issue of Guitar World.  I found it when I ordered a bunch of old issues awhile back.  

When asked if he is worried that 12BB might be a little too far out for some STP fans...

"No," He replies. "I think ppl want something far out. The stuff that has any value to it at all right now, musically, is stuff that's more far out.  Like that song 'Smack my Bitch Up" that's pretty far out, you know.  And that's what ppl want.  People always want far out and they always want great melodies.  And I think the melodies I have on this record(12BB) are just pure pop. Not like the melodies these wannabe alternative bands like Matchbox 20 or 311 are singing. People are sick of hearing bands like that.  To tell you the truth, 90 percent of what's being called 'alternative rock' right now-or rock in general-is so fucking boring. I can't even call it bad.  It's just boring.  Pure mediocrity.  People want to hear music that is refreshing.  Some new sounds."

Haha you gotta love Scott.  He is one firey mother fucker.

[steven28174]

Feel free to correct me, but was it not over Scott's sobriety?  He had himself largely together (in appearance at the moment, I saw one of the last shows), but I believe was a "maintenance/functioning" drug user.  It just seems like the topic has been touched upon before and that was the conclusion (much closer to the incident).  Correct me if I am wrong as I have no link, this is just from a foggy memory.. but I do believe this is what was reported/or widely thought to have happened.

-Steven Perry

[JugeSTP]

99% of all issues that ever came up that threatened the longevity of STP had to do with Scott's sobriety in one way or another.